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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:21 PM
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Wright controversy affects the polls
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/wright_controversy_affects_the.html

One reason is that Obama now has taken two diametrically opposed stands on the minister whose church he attended for 20 years, who married him and his wife and baptized their children, whose sermon inspired the title of his 2006 book, "The Audacity of Hope." On March 18, his response was: No, I cannot renounce my pastor. On April 29, his response was: Yes, I can.

Another and more important reason is that Obama's long association with a minister who says that the federal government manufactured the AIDS virus to kill black people, who likens American soldiers to terrorists, who celebrates Louis Farrakhan as a great man -- that long association tends to undermine the central theme of Obama's candidacy. Obama has presented himself since his 2004 Democratic National Convention speech as a leader who can unite America across political and racial divides. He presented himself to American voters, most of whom, I believe, think it would be a very good thing if we elected a black president. (I personally feel that way.) "In the blue states," Obama told the convention in Boston and the nation watching on TV, "we worship an awesome God." Now it turns out that the God worshipped in the Rev. Wright's church was "awesome" in ways we didn't expect.

Obama can't be too happy with his less than convincing win in Guam this afternoon either. Super Tuesday III will tell the tale.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:22 PM
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1. Less than convincing?
You're smoking too much crack. Lay down that crackpipe.

Obama wasn't EVEN expected to win there - All the pundits were calling Guam for Clinton :eyes:
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:30 PM
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9. Obama thought he would win in Guam by a bigger margin.
Edited on Sat May-03-08 04:32 PM by Blue_State_Elitist
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Obamas_projections.html


And I just saw Schneider on CNN saying Obama was expected to win by a bigger margin.
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:32 PM
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10. Exactly-the result in Guam might be the first indication of a Wright backlash n/t
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:32 PM
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11. He expected 10 or 11, got 6, oh, that's gotta hurt.... Like she expected 9.2 out of PA
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:33 PM
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12. That's fine.
Just showing some evidence that maybe Hillary wasn't universally expected to take Guam.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:02 PM
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18. He won by 7 people not 6%. Get a clue. nt
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:23 PM
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2. AT least he's winning.
Where's Hillary?
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:24 PM
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3. If this were February and the day after Wisconsin
Obama probably would have won Guam 70-30 like he won Hawaii 81-19 or something. Now.....not so much.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:28 PM
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7. a win is a win
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:29 PM
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8. The infamous campaign memo from the Obama campaign
predicted a 55-45 win for Obama in Guam. It looks like it will be 54-46. :shrug:

Everything else I saw predicted a Clinton victory.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:26 PM
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4. How long will we have to wait before nobody mentions the name "Wright" ?
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:28 PM
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5. Wasn't Clinton favored to win Guam?
And aren't your palms getting hairy from all that Pastorbating?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:38 PM
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14. Obama is the one who loves the pastors
Why is that?
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:28 PM
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6. No it hasn't. NYT has the numbers of a poll they have been running for a while now.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:36 PM
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13. Barone editorial posted on RCP with analysis of a Ras poll...
What an icky repugish circle jerk.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:38 PM
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15. ill be sure to thank him and Hillary
If Obama loses the GE.

thanks for the heads up on holding people accountable for fucking up democrats chances in the fall!

Obama IS the nominee.
time to move on and use that donation money for something more useful( no no, i dont mean to give it to republicans, i know how you hillary supporters think!) like the DNC and any of the various left organisations out there.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:38 PM
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16. What a shame to see you're from Spokane
I've always thought people from Spokane are a lot smarter than this.

hmmm......


:evilgrin:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:08 PM
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17. the way pollsters word questions, the time of day they call, and the area codes they call
can easily predict the answers to the questions..

Like Lou Dobbs polls.. ever wonder why they are always 99-1, 95-5 etc??
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