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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:49 PM
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Do not post cartoons from Iowa Presidential Watch:
Edited on Sat May-03-08 05:08 PM by Zynx
EDIT: To make clear my intention here, this is a public service announcement of how not to spread rightwing propaganda unwittingly:


Some here are quite fond of this cartoon:

However, the very same artist is responsible for these as well:






Any cartoons from that website are right-wing trash and more generally do not post anything that has Linda Eddy as its artist. You may as well post shit from the RNC.

Nuff said.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:52 PM
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1. Thanks...good thing to point out.
:kick:
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:52 PM
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2. We've got to hold people accountable.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:53 PM
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3. I've never even heard of "Iowa Presidential Watch" until just now.
:shrug:
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:54 PM
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4. Had you seen the Hillary "I'm melting" cartoon?
That's where this is from.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 04:59 PM
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5. I don't *think* I have, to be honest.
If I *did* see it, it certainly wasn't very memorable.

I've gotten to the point where I rarely post on DU anymore, and I certainly don't click on the "bashing" threads of either candidate here in GDP. I'm tired of the negativity (and trolls), so I lurk in GDP most of the time for actual news.

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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:00 PM
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6. Question: So why are you posting them?
I agree that those cartoons are trash. I never knew about them until you posted them. And of course, since you posted all of them here, they will now just get that much more exposure.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:03 PM
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9. I'm making the point because if I said, "Don't post these" without context no one would listen.
People have been posting them and I've tried to tell people before and they still don't listen.
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:14 PM
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17. Right, I understand.
and I'm not accusing you of anything nefarious. But, those people that you say don't listen, I'm sure, already know that the artist is right-wing trash. If someone is posting the "melting" one that you say is popular here, well, I would assume that they are a troll anyway, so of course they won't listen to your pleas not to post them.

All I'm saying is posting them here just gives that artist more exposure to his/her/its trash art.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:26 PM
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26. From now on though, everyone knows what this garbage is and there
is a distinctive style to watch out for. If you see any cartoons that look like this, the odds are they are rightwing trash. People have to be informed.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 06:11 PM
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36. i never saw any of those but the hillary one is mild
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:02 PM
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7. Hate radio via computer graphics
Edited on Sat May-03-08 05:03 PM by depakid
I do take some small solace in knowing that Ms. Eddy will suffer alongside other Americans as the US economy contracts and/or collapses in the coming years....
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:05 PM
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11. Do not welcome any economic hardship.
You never know what people will do when the chips are down.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:21 PM
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19. I don't welcome it at all -but the reality is that natural and macroeconomic laws DO apply
to Americans -even though many like to believe that the US is somehow exceptional and doesn't have to "pay the piper."

Bottom line is that the American lifestyle and its supporting service economies are based on cheap energy- and twin deficits (current account/trade and the federal budget).

The situation is simply not sustainable and irrational Republican policies- promoted by equally irrational people like this cartoonist have hastened its demise and substantially worsened the probable consequences for everyone in the states- and for many who live abroad.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:03 PM
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8. Don't post Glenn McCoy either. He's a wingnut moron.
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Donkeykick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:04 PM
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10. Thanks. I'll do that.
Nice conservative read, huh. :eyes:
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:06 PM
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13. DUers have frequently posted crap from that website.
I'm so sick of it.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:05 PM
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12. Sneaky.
How you did that and all.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:07 PM
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14. There was nothing sneaky about it. I'm showing what a piece of shit website that is
that DUers are so frequently posting from. I don't do underhanded posts like you seem to be accusing me of.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:13 PM
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16. That was awesome framing, sometimes you have to admire a good bait and switch, even if the person
didn't understand their own intention.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:22 PM
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21. Whatever. If you want to read a devious meaning into what I did go ahead.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:25 PM
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25. Also, do you really think I wanted to disparage Jimmy Carter, Nancy Pelosi, and John Kerry
in addition to Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama? If I did, I don't belong on this forum at all.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:35 PM
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29. Yes I do believe you did, your choice of all of the cartoons from that site and you chose
Nancy Pelosi, Jimmy Carter and John Kerry, Hmmm what do they have in common.

And the Kerry cartoons you chose, very interesting selection.

If you didn't make the choices on purpose to send a specific message then you need to realize how powerful the subconscious is as a window to our intentions.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:42 PM
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32. You have a very shallow view of things.
I happen to like Jimmy Carter and Nancy Pelosi a great deal. John Kerry not so much.

I selected the most offensive right-wing crap from that website that I could find to make the point the website is crap. I repeatedly said it was shit. The only way your argument works is if you already assume away I have some deep-down right wing agenda I am trying to push here which I don't. I am making the point that DUers have been posting cartoons from this website routinely and I am sick of it.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 06:11 PM
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35. Im not judging your agenda, Im telling you the message you sent.
Far from shallow, thats a very in depth point, to understand how strong the subconscious can be in controlling ones choices.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:17 PM
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18. Thank you for showing the best parts.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:23 PM
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22. If you want to read a malicious meaning into what I did, that's your decision.
I can't stop you from descending into a spiral of paranoia and insanity.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:29 PM
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27. I'll love ya when the primary is over.
It's not malicious, it's politics.

(The cartoons are shit but they never would have been seen had you not brought them here)
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:31 PM
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28. They have been brought here on much more than one occasion.
I've had to post 5 or 6 separate times on the issue.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:11 PM
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15. Not sneaky. A good point that needed to be said.
Edited on Sat May-03-08 05:11 PM by Forkboy
I've seen the first one used here more than a few times, and it's no different than pointing out to someone that uses a RW source against one candidate that often that same source is against the other one too, and can be used in the same way.

Nothing sneaky about telling people not to use RW sources either for stories or cartoons on a progressive/Democratic site.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:22 PM
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20. eegad
Edited on Sat May-03-08 05:22 PM by iamthebandfanman
take them away take them away!

p.s.
i like the obama and kerry elitest one.
glad the right wingers are using hillarys talking point.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:24 PM
Response to Reply #20
24. Indeed they are and I would be quite upset if Hillary supporters were going
around using right-wing cartoons to back up their points and I'm pretty sure I have actually.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:37 PM
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30. i agree
whoever uses things from a right wing propaganda site is desperate to attack someone, regardless of who they claim to represent...

key part being claim to represent.
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coyotespaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:37 PM
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31. Actually, I saw a few Hillary supporters posting a pic from that site
I'm still not up on how to post pics on here, but it's the "Empty Suit" Barack Obama pic.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:43 PM
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33. That's the one I was thinking of. Thank you.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:24 PM
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23. I agree
100%

Nominated
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 06:07 PM
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34. If you can't stand the heat, get out the kitchen
does that sound familiar to you?
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Tresalisa Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 06:13 PM
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37. I was wondering why those cartoons were even posted here,
as that guy or gal is one of the most rabid right-wingnuts on the internet, and their cartoons make me sick. Glad you pointed this out.

:hi:
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