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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:21 PM
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The Weekly Standard : "She is acting like one of our own."
Edited on Sun May-04-08 07:54 PM by Pirate Smile
Andrew Sullivan


"She is acting like one of our own."
04 May 2008 07:34 pm

The Weekly Standard bows down before the new right-wing Clinton. My own view is that the neocons now see her as the main way to defeat Obama and the possibility of real change in the occupation of the Middle East. They know how vulnerable McCain is - and fear Obama, because they have not gotten into his head. But Clinton's politics have been forged in the crucible of far right attacks, and while, in the past, her liberalism was reactive, it now seems she has utterly internalized the Rove dynamic:

She's running a right-wing campaign. She's running the classic Republican race against her opponent, running on toughness and use-of-force issues, the campaign that the elder George Bush ran against Michael Dukakis, that the younger George Bush waged in 2000 and then again against John Kerry, and that Ronald Reagan--"The Bear in the Forest"--ran against Jimmy Carter and Walter F. Mondale. And she's doing it with much the same symbols.


If she can also bring down the most promising Democrat in a generation, the neocon right would be thrilled. Check this out:

And better--or worse--she is becoming a social conservative, a feminist form of George Bush.



Against an opponent who shops for arugula, hangs out with ex-Weathermen, and says rural residents cling to guns and to God in unenlightened despair at their circumstances, she has rushed to the defense of religion and firearms, while knocking back shots of Crown Royal and beer. Her harsh, football-playing Republican father (the villain of the piece, against whom she rebelled in earlier takes on her story) has become a role model, a working class hero, whose name she evokes with great reverence. Any day now, she'll start talking Texan, and cutting the brush out in Chappaqua or at her posh mansion on Embassy Row...


Continuing the war is the prize, of course:

She might run to the right of McCain, if she makes it to the general election, and get the votes of rebellious conservatives. Or she, Lieberman, and McCain could form a pro-war coalition, with all of them running to pick up the phone when it rings in the small hours.


Or to put it another way:

"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."


http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/05/she-is-acting-l.html#more


If The Weekly Standard thinks that, then it is no surprise that the headline over at Talking Points Memo is "No More Sharks Left to Jump"

No More Sharks Left to Jump

From Bob Reich's blog ...


When asked this morning by ABC News' George Stephanopoulos if she could name a single economist who backs her call for a gas tax holiday this summer, HRC said "I'm not going to put my lot in with economists."
I know several of the economists who have been advising Senator Clinton, so I phoned them right after I heard this. I reached two of them. One hadn't heard her remark and said he couldn't believe she'd say it. The other had heard it and shrugged it off as "politics as usual."


--Josh Marshall

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/192986.php
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:23 PM
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1. I question that she wasn't always a female version of George Bush! n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:27 PM
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8. I submit she
was.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:24 PM
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2. The praise from the right continues for Hillary
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:25 PM
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3. How gross
:puke:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:27 PM
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10. Her growing right-wingery IS gross.
I can't believe there's anyone here who doesn't recognize exactly what it means when the WEEKLY FUCKING STANDARD praises clinton!

Wake the fuck UP, clinton supporters!

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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:26 PM
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4. They can have her
let her run on the McCain ticket
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:29 PM
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13. The button is ready..
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:27 PM
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5. Yep..only she's not tough..they just want you to think that..
She's stringy and slimey..and fuck 'er.

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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:00 PM
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50. She's not tough. She's too weak to compete by ethical means, just like Bush Jr. n/t
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:27 PM
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6. Yee-haw!
Get ready for more of the same.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:27 PM
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7. In all fairness...
...even if he has a column in the Weekly Standard, it's been a while since Andrew Sullivan spoke as the voice of the GOP.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:42 PM
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28. He is quoting The Weekly Standard. He didn't write it. He supports Obama.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:27 PM
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9. The right has always feared her - and liked Obama as he's expected to accomplish nothing - as his
advisers have told us on the War (Powers), on social issues and health (as told to Kudlow) and on unions and trade (as told to Canada) - the right wants the con job fellow

No wonder the Weekly Standard is trying to smear Hillary.


No wonder a right wing smear gets posted on DU by an Obama supporter.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:38 PM
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23. How are they trying to smear her? It sounds like they have a crush on her
I know quite a few Republicans that absolutely can't stand McCain but figure they could live with Hillary, as it would be the best of both worlds.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:40 PM
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26. Then why is the reich wing trying so desperately to get Hillary the nom? n/t
n/t
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:08 PM
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33. Obama's adviser did NOT contact Canada
that was Hillary's adviser... troll much?
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:23 AM
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37. did you type that with a straight face?
:rofl:
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:27 PM
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11. If the Weakly Standard can figure this out, why can't her remaining Dem supporters?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:32 PM
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17. because they are blinded and enthalled by her militant ovaries
They seem to think that "a" woman in the Oval Office (not under a desk) is the ultimate goal...even if the woman is Hillary.. I don't get it either.. :shrug:



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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:35 PM
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21. It's as plain on the noses on their faces
Edited on Sun May-04-08 07:36 PM by goclark
A 4 year old could figure it out and the Weekly Standard had to lay it out there-sad.
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:28 PM
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12. She's a neocon in a pantsuit.
Edited on Sun May-04-08 07:31 PM by Lord Helmet
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:29 PM
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15. That's A Lie! Take It Back!
In a pantsuit, not a skirt.
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:31 PM
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16. edited with your astute correction
Edited on Sun May-04-08 07:32 PM by Lord Helmet
:hi:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:29 PM
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14. Sullivan does not speak for GOP.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:32 PM
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18. Why do you post a heading that reads "weekly Standard" although
your article is from the Atlantic?

The Atlantic is not a right wing mag.

The Weekly standard is.

You diminish what Andrew Sullivan states with your erroneous headline.

If you wanted to be accurate, you would either change your headline to read "The Atlantic" or you would post the article from the Weekly standard instead of Andrew Sullivan's piece.

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:44 PM
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30. I left it in but added Andrew's name at the top so people can tell it is a blog from him about a
Edited on Sun May-04-08 07:55 PM by Pirate Smile
column in The Weekly Standard.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:44 PM
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31. It's entirely accurate...
Sullivan, wriitng in The Atlantic, is quoting the Weekly Standard article, which does indeed say "she is acting like one of our own". See http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/063kvafy.asp. Watch them try to woo her to the right...she would be a huge catch for them.

Interestingly enough, there's a GOP-sponsored ad against Obama on that page, so apparently the party still thinks he's going to be nominee.
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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:34 PM
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19. Seduced By The Dark Side She Was
No trick too dirty when the fate of Hillary...er, the Free World
depends on her winning. It's borne of desperation, the lack of a "Plan B".


She's becoming a parody of a bad loser.....
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:34 PM
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20. And Clinton supporters are proud of her for that.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:36 PM
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22. "Or she, Liberman and McCain could form a pro-war coalition..."
We need a new smiley for projectile vomiting.
:puke:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:55 PM
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35. Those three together could obliterate most of the human race.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:39 PM
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24. Be careful. The Hillary supporters are coming to get you
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IowaGirl Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:59 PM
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56. Hey, that's not funny...........
:rofl: And I'm a Hillary supporter,LOL. Actually, I about died laughing when I saw it because although I'm not nearly that old, I did have a leg operation in January and had to use a walker for a while.:hi:
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swimmernsecretsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:22 PM
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57. Is that from "The Producers" ?
A guess, but from what I remembered of the movie...which is the closest I can get to Broadway right now.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:39 PM
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25. JUST what I've been saying here on DU - Hillary = GOP
Edited on Sun May-04-08 07:46 PM by Triana
NO THANKS.

She IS one of them.

I do NOT vote Republican so - buh-bye Hillary!

They can HAVE her.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:06 PM
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47. She's protecting the franchise, Bush-Clinton-Bush Inc.
Edited on Mon May-05-08 12:07 PM by blm
.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:01 PM
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51. Hillary=Bush Jr. Mark Penn = Karl Rove. n/t
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:42 PM
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27. Hillary Clinton (R-Lite)
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:43 PM
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29. Wolf in a sheep's pantsuit.
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Dems to Win Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:47 PM
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32. Right-wingers admit they're slimy!
The entire Clinton campaign has zero class. Get them off the stage.

James Carville: "If she gave him one of her cojones, they'd both have two."

I hope this ends all whining about sexism from the Clinton camp. All gutter comments about Hillary's vagina are fair game, after this. Unfortunately. Not a good day for feminists.

Indiana and North Carolina voters, end this now. Please.

Vote Obama. For civilization.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:31 PM
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34. kick
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:23 AM
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36. That's why I can't see any true Democrat supporting her
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:03 PM
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52. Don't know about "true" Democrat., but Hillary supporters are a very different...
...sort of Democrat than I am.

It could be that Hillary and the DLC have so warped our party that WE no longer fit. I hope that's not the case, but the fact that he DNC has let her pull this bullshit, including insulting Dem voters, speas volumes to me.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:24 AM
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38. K & R
the CLintons are disgusting. And I used to defend them.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:31 AM
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39. K & R
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:47 AM
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40. Next thing you know...
she'll be challenging voters who go to school out of state, suing the Democratic State Party when a union endorses her opponent, saying caucuses don't matter, small states don't matter, States that break Democratic Party rules and have their delegates stripped as a result should count because she says so, and we should now run the Primary according to Republican Primary Rules. Jeesh..what's a Democrat to do?
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 11:01 AM
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41. Bush in a pantsuit.
n/t
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 11:06 AM
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42. "A feminist George Bush" Isn't that an oxymoron?
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 11:08 AM
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43. "cutting the brush out in Chappaqua" - I love it - LOL
in a cowboy hat, no doubt
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 11:14 AM
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44. She's playing to "the silent majority" just like Nixon did.
And, the Reagan Democrats, with the usual code words.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 11:18 AM
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45. K&R
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 11:56 AM
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46. I don't think that's
a label or endorsement anyone would be proud of. I remember how tough DU was on Liebermann Why should Hillary get a break?
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:12 PM
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48. I am looking forward to hearing about the swelling pride the Clinton supporters
have for this comment. :puke:
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:54 PM
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49. In Hillary's mind, she's taking millions of rightwing voters from the Republicans, but ...
what she doesn't know is that they're using her as a patsy. The more right she turns, the more they laugh and promote her, salivating at the idea of going against her in the GE.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:05 PM
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53. Odd...no pro-Hillary posts. Has Hillary gone too far? Are even her devoted supporters...
...no longer able to support her bullshit?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:45 PM
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54. K&R
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:48 PM
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55. maybe she knows the whole thing is fraudulent and is just riding into the white house
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:33 PM
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58. I think she must have cracked under the RW attacks in the nineties
They got so deep into her skull that she came to the realization that many, perhaps most Americans enjoy watching the GOP fight dirty.

So, she decided the best way to the White House is to give them (some of whom are in the media) the kind of ugly, nasty and vile campaign that they want to see.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 09:25 PM
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59. Kick
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:30 AM
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60. kick
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