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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:53 PM Original message |
For more than 20 years Hillary attended a church that discriminates against gays. |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. why does hillary support bigots like that? |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I can't. This woman has clearly dedicated her life to homophobia, imperialism and torture. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
54. LOL - nonsense like that gets to be funny after a while - plus her Church "blesses" gay couples |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. the deafening sound of crickets will abound here. there is no defense. |
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The Night Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. See post #13 and then get back to me. {EOM} |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. See post #14 and then get back to me. n/t |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. See post #16 and don't get back to me n/t |
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The Night Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. See post #16 and then get back to me. {EOM} |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Can't...that's a post from someone who was lucky enough to be on my ignore list. n/t |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Copy it for him |
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The Night Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Yeah... The folks at TUCC at least have the decency to serve breakfast while bashing gays... |
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The Night Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. {tumbleweeds roll past} |
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The Night Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
34. {sun goes down} |
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The Night Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
42. {crickets chirp} |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
46. Well, that's religion for ya. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
60. You know that that's part of that "bible" thing, right? |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
77. So pretty much everybody is going to helll..... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. You're not gay |
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mcctatas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Is that a qualification for concern on the topic? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I just think it's amusing that people who have never been advocates for this issue |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. I am not gay and I have been an advocate for equal rights since I volunteered at GMHC in the 80s |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Well then you have some credibility |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. I think that the community's support of HRC because of an early Obama campaign mistake is misguided |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. I think most gays and lesbians who are interested and involved |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. I think there is certainly a segment who are less informed and could be swayed by a single story |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. they are roughly equal on GLBT issues |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Actions speak louder than words. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
67. Well, symbolically, she's marched in a couple of gay rights parades |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #40 |
72. Goddess deliver us |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. there sure are a lot of em floating around |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #72 |
81. Oh so sorry, did I step in your wading pool? |
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DMorgan (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
35. Oh so equal rights issues are "CONVENIENT" for Hillary supporters? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. The proper comparison would be if someone |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. You have no justification for making such a claim. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Not at all |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. And I've previously had this conversation with you. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. The difference is |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. So, how does that compare with Obama's church, United Church of Christ? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Unfavorably. The UCC is significantly more liberal than the UMC |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Obama's congregation does NOT marry gay couples |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
47. That does not change the fact that the UCC's position is more liberal |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. The entire OP is ridiculous to begin with |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. How so, pray tell? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. As are the chicken littles who run around worrying about Wright's "hate-filled" preaching. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #59 |
71. I have actually defended Wright on a couple of occasions |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. The UCC became the first mainline Christian denomination to support same-sex marriage |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. See post #16 |
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PatGund (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. Well, let me put it to you this way... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. And, btw, "sexual preference" is offensive. It implies one can "change" |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
55. It's not "feigned" outrage. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #55 |
70. It most certainly is feigned outgrage |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
75. And so see no room for a neutral orientation, where choice is a factor? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
8. Since homophobia is still acceptable among some of those who consider themselves Christian, |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Just bringing it up to illustrate a point and put it out there as a useful retort. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
12. Her own particular church |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Is that church part of the United Methodist Church system? |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. I know very little about how Christians organize themselves |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. If it is a church that is part of the United Methodist system, then NO gay marriage. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Trinity (Obama's congregation) does not marry gay couples either |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. It's the marriage licence from the state that provides recognition from the state. |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. I know that Hillary remains with a religion that discriminates based upon sexual preference. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. {pssssst...since you have decided to be DU's very own Harvey Milk... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. he's a bit slow on the learning curve |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
74. You lost. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. OMG |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
17. The pastor of Foundry Methodist, |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Will that church consecrate a gay Bishop? Is a "blessing" the same as marriage? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. It's more than Obama's congregation, Trinity, will do |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. Uhm, you're aware that no church can conduct a marriage |
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milkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
23. Gays are from San Francisco, and Hillary don't like no San Francisco elitists (unless she's fund- |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
50. But, but, but... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
61. James Carville says that she has three testicles. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. He would know. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. How would he know? Is there hanky-panky going on there? |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Don't tell Mary. |
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chyjo (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
62. She hates gay people |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
64. How could she stay in a church like that. I would have left |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
76. Oh my god how could she stay in this hate filled gay bashing church? |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
78. and she sat there for 20 years and said nothing? |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
79. We need a UU president |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. We had one. His name was Taft |
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