This Is What It Looks Like To Obliterate A Country

Click on link to see what Hiroshima looked liked after the bomb was dropped

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/03/unearthed-photos-reveal-h_n_99970.html

Entertained by a campaign to get them to believe that the nukes that will fall on Persia are "Smart nukes" that only kill "bad people."

That is what some people believed when we first attacked Iraq!

I had neighbors tell me that there was no need to protest the war - that the only thing affected by Shock and Awe were buildings. (Of course these were the same people that would have their lives ruined should their car get scratched up in a fender bender.)

I'd have other things to say about it.

As an Iraqi woman put it, "How can anyone think that a 3,000 pound object can land on a house and not hurt anyone??"

Or is it just the word "obliterate" that needs accountability?

Not to mention the Palestinians and maybe some Egyptians.

She was asked what the US response would be if Iran nuked Israel. As long as Iran doesn't do that, there'll be no obliteration.

You can't nuke Israel and not spread radiation all over the area and adjoining countries.

Good catch. This is what I was looking for... there is no good reason for Iran to do such a thing, and there is no way for them to do it in any case. So why are our candidates being asked stupid hypothetical questions my the media? And why are our candidates answering stupidity like that? And why are our candidates looking for others to see them as the keepers of Earth anyway? Don't we have enough problems of our own that could use our money and our energy?

completely, though I think the damage to the planet overall would be more extensive. Cowboy diplomacy has been a failure for the * administration, so why isn't that a lesson learned?

Obliterate was unnecessary, but another problem is Hillary's arrogance in deciding she is going to be made Queen and control the world. We have no right to barge into other countries and kill their leaders, and we have no duty or responsibility to police the world. That is what the UN is for, and why we should support it.

What if she had said "we will hold them accountable?"

I also agree that we have no right to barge into other countries and kill their leaders, like we did in Iraq. I agree it is not our place to police the world, yet both Clinton and Obama have made a point to suggest that we are responsible for Israel.

I think we need to learn to be responsible for ourselves, or some other country is going to come in and remove or kill our leader. Regardless of how you feel about Bush, that would ruin us.

I hope not.

None of the aforementioned people (including the Iranians) believe Hillary Clinton has any present intention to nuke Iran. It's how the damn game is played, and if Barack Obama doesn't get that, it's not change, it's naivete (or a change for the worse.)

Diplomacy can avert wars if people actually try talking instead of just engaging in pissing contests.

"Diplomacy can avert wars if people actually try talking instead of just engaging in pissing contests."

Of course. But "diplomacy" takes many forms, and in the case of "tough talk" re: Israel, what Hillary said was essentially a ceremonial recitation of US foreign policy for the last 50 years. In addition, Hillary's little threat seems an adequate response to Ahmadinejad's repeated threats to "wipe Israel off the map", and is taken just as seriously, I'm sure.

Whereas others merely dream, we can do it.

And we're still the only murderous motherfucking barbarians to use this weapon on civilians. So really, we're the only ones the world should be afraid of, because we are monsters.

choose trying to talk first. Why throw out something like that - she is in no position to do it now and it just inflames the situation.

I'm with Barack - I think the way things have been done "the last 50" years may not be ideal. I think our country is great, but I will not defend every single action. So far we are the only power out there "nuking" people. Nothing equals what happened in Hiroshima. I'm not going to second-guess what they decided at that time, but my wish now is that we'd work towards non-violent means of diplomacy whenever possible, and not throw out idle inflamatory threats for political gain.

Diplomacy can avert wars if people actually try talking instead of just engaging in pissing contests.

"We are going to bury you." Totally unnecessary. Serves no good purpose.

Threatening people with annihilation serves no good purpose, it is the basest type of posturing, quite like when * threw his axis of evil comment. It immediately put the backs up of countries who have the potential to be dangerous. Especially as Iran doesn't even have that type of weapon...yet. But now, they may make damned sure they get it. And, when is the last time Iran attacked or invaded another country?

is that some people continue to allow the fear-mongers to frame "reality" for them, and thus continue to view this in the context of "but what if Iran nukes Israel?" Sad.

Those most often willing to lustfully make such threats are those whose lives have been most isolated from the utter insanity of war and combat. Those who regard themselves among the 'elite' or the privileged seem all too often willing to ante up the lives of others for their own self-aggrandizement.

It's just another one of the reasons I favor a Universal Draft whenever we even contemplate the deployment of our military in combat. Universal: straight, gay, male, female, rich, poor, black, white ... everyone between 18 and 26. No exceptions.

Until we DON'T use the largest military force in the face of the planet to threaten others at the point of a bomb, then everyone should share the burden.

Hiroshima Victims (graphic images)

Didn't have the capacity to post these myself.

so much

It is just as important for humanity to remember Hiroshima as to remember Auschwitz.

It's really inconceivable we can do these things to each other. The Japanese were certainly guilty of aggression, war crimes and their own atrocities, but when you see enough melted children, it really drives you to want to make average people and our leaders understand the essential importance of considering non-violent solutions to the problems of the world.

The armchair generals in Washington and people all over the country watching the "news" on their sofas really don't have the slightest idea of what's going on.

Let them be truly indormed before they shoot off their mouths.

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” H.L. Mencken

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