Obama the Pander Man

Obama the Pander Man


May 5, 2008

Obama Says Teamsters Need Less Oversight
By Brody Mullins and Kris Maher
Word Count: 2,009

Sen. Barack Obama won the endorsement of the Teamsters earlier this year after privately telling the union he supported ending the strict federal oversight imposed to root out corruption, according to officials from the union and the Obama campaign.

It's an unusual stance for a presidential candidate. Policy makers have largely treated monitoring of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters as a legal matter left to the Justice Department since an independent review board was set up in 1992 to eliminate mob influence in the union.
WSJ

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120994756511766395.html?mod=hpp_us_pageone

The nomination's over - time to move on to the next phase.

We're Democrats, not Republicans.

When did this happen? Was I on a bathroom break? Checking baseball scores?

And they were both right about it. The special oversight of the Teamsters is long outdated. They've cleaned up their act a lot.

:hi:

Clinton to Teamsters: 'Turn the page' on consent decree?


How is the Hillary's gas tax pander working out?

I don't get what your problem with this is???

Let's peek at April's tally from the U.S. Department of Labor ESA - not quite the clean slate the unions or Senator Obama wants people to know about:

# April 21 - Stephen Priese, former Financial-Secretary of UAW Local 516, pled guilty to embezzling union funds
# April 16 - Kim M. Van Handel, former President and Acting Treasurer of Steelworkers Local 1980, pled guilty to embezzling union funds
# April 16 - Sheila Rushing, former office secretary for Bakery, Tobacco & Grain Local 482, indicted on one count of embezzling union assets, destruction of union records and making false entries in required union records
# April 14 - Fredrick W. Jones, former Vice President of Glass Molders and Plastics Union Local 285, pled guilty to embezzlement of union funds
# April 14 - Brian Dolney, former President of Machinists Lodge 2333, pled guilty to bank fraud
# April 11 - Kathleen Drake, former Secretary-Treasurer for Machinists Lodge 2339-C, pled guilty to one count of falsification of union records
# April 9 - Gary Smink, former President of Steelworkers Local 1-962, indicted on one count of theft
# April 9 - Linda Leonard, former office secretary of Laborers Local 216, pled guilty to one count of making false entries in union records
# April 7 - Amy Cross, former Secretary-Treasurer of Utility Workers Local 308, charged with one count of embezzling
# April 7 - Heather Lott, former bookkeeper of Teamsters Local 19, pled guilty to one count of embezzling union funds
# April 7 - Michael Rutowski, former Treasurer of AFGE Local 2913, pled guilty to one count of making a false and fraudulent representation to a federal agency, embezzlement
# April 4 - Karimah Bailey, former Treasurer of AFGE Local 3197, pled guilty to embezzling union funds
# April 4 - Zona Albritton, former Manager of General Services for AFSCME, pled guilty to one count of embezzling union funds
# April 4 - Darrell Pendergrass, former President of International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees Local 699, pled guilty to embezzling and willfully evading the payment of taxes
# April 3, Louella M. Zieman, former office-secretary of Ironworkers Local 709, indicted on embezzling union funds
# April 1 - Michelle A. Meek, former Treasurer for AFGE Local 3435, pled guilty to theft

LINK

http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/olms/enforce_2008.htm

But you sure sound like you're applying for a GOP spokesperson position. I say go for it!

the teamsters! That is one brave embezzler!

Not! Will he feel the same way about Bush in order to have all the Republicans love him?

The same one that is pushing for excessive new burdensome oversight regulations designed to weaken unions.

to those present, said he was going to end it, not look into it. Big difference.

he said something different from what other people who were there said he said. it may be just a he said/she said sort of thing, but since there's a pattern developing, I know who I'm believing.

Or does your shamelessness only extend so far?

LOL

:eyes:

Project much?

I'd think that if one's chosen candidate was almost universally accused of pandering, one would want to shift the focus.

mmmm pale ales :toast: and we ARE both Democrats...perhaps there may yet be hope for our country :pals:

:toast:

Do the math and you will see the end is near! Hop on board and quit the division of the party!

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unions need to project a good image. There is nothing worse than your union having a corruption reputation.

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And against the TOS you signed.

And yet the Teamsters have a recording of Hillary saying the very thing the WSJ accuses Obama of saying. What a joke you people are.

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama on Monday said if elected president he would examine the strict government oversight of the Teamsters union aimed at rooting out corruption, but denied any blanket commitment to end the federal monitoring.

Obama was discussing a Wall Street Journal report that said he won the endorsement of the Teamsters after privately telling it he backed an end to special federal oversight set up to eliminate the influence of organized crime in the union.

"I wouldn't make any blanket commitments," the Illinois senator told ABC's "Good Morning America."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24469466/


May 5th, 2008 | WASHINGTON -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama did not promise to end federal oversight of the Teamsters in exchange for an endorsement, a union official said Monday.

"Senator Obama has promised us nothing in exchange for our endorsement," spokesman Bret Caldwell said.

The Teamsters endorsed Obama in February.
http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/2008/05/05/D90FQ3701_obama_teamsters/index.html

I'm sure he wouldn't make any committments behind the scenes and lie about them again, like the NAFTA thing with Canada for instance.

or like signing the pledge to penalize MI and FL? Or how about trying behind the scenes to get the SD's to overthrow the vote? Glass houses and all that.....

MI and FL were penalized by not recognizing their delegates immediately after the vote was counted. Signed pledges that would override the rules? I can only say I have not seen such a pledge. And to Pelosi and Obama trying to pressure SD's to take orders instead of voting their conscience I can only say I am glad it has not been successful.

'the union official'? "Senator Obama promised us nothing..." Okaaaaaayyyyy

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"He did it fist" is not considered reasoning beyond the grammar school play-yard.

.. with with unions, then fuck you up and down.

It'll have to wait till morning.:thumbsup:

My. Aren't we full of irrational hatred tonight?

Compare her failing to play "But, but, Obama does it to", at least then you have some content.

But you should try posting what makes Hillary or Obama different than McCain, it will make your transition much easier, when DU shifts gears shortly.

Mo' funny Mo' funny, Mo' funny!!!

You get better with every passing day!!

You cheer me up, cause I know how better to handle the Republican Doggerel Machine through every one of your cut 'n paste efforts!!


Thanks, Rodeodance!!

Why today?

"Pantsuited Pander Bear" her own self!!

What day???

Why, silly,

It's the next to the LAST day.

:patriot:

:rofl:

the teamsters are on record saying it's not true.....
:eyes:

He blew in off the water /

My father was a farmer /

and I, his only daughter /

Took up with a no-good mill-workin' man from Massachusetts /

Who died from too much whiskey /

And left me these three faces to feed . . .

James Taylor. "Millworker."

I side with the working people, having descended from that stock, and because unions stand up for those people's dignity, I'll take the union any day over their owner-class Reagan-voting union-busting Republican asshole masters.

Ship of Fools - Morrison.

A happy Monday night to ya, Condem.


:toast: :thumbsup: :hi: :dem: :yourock: :bluebox:

Good day on the morrow!

shade of blue they got.

I see ol rodeo ain't hanging down here with us. Must of gave that ball back to Obama.

but there's a couple things we don't see eye-to-eye on.

As for the good Senator Obama, I was impressed that Stevie Wonder took the stage with him this evening in Indianapolis. Great campaigns deserve great musicians, and Obama had one up there tonight. Wonder may be clinically blind but he sees a lot farther than most of the rest of us.

If I were trying to hunt down two people to AFFIRM what's good about life, I could do a whole lot worse than Barack Obama and Stevie Wonder.

I respect the shit out of her but she's dying.

They want the dashing prince to travel the kingdom, his loyal retinue in tow, with the glass slipper in one hand and binocs in the other, scanning the little towns and countryside for the one special, special girl whose dainty foot fits the slipper.

Happiness of untold bliss and deliverance ensues, not only because the prince inherits the whole shebang from the old man, but because being his bride validates the girl's ego and shows up the ugly stepsisters who made her scrub the floor all those dreary years.

All the girl has to manage is to have the magic coach back by midnight for the spell to work.

Hillary Clinton seemed to have lost track of the time and after Feb. 5th, the prince was gaining popularity in the kingdom and dammit it all, he already HAD a wife. And 2 kids, too. And there was no slipper.

Stuck in the post-Feb. 5th fairy tale landscape, Hillary switched fairy tales. She's no longer bitter Cinderella waiting for the rich stud with the glass shoe. Now she's the witch in SNOW WHITE, weighing how much poison to put in that apple. "The nuclear option" was confirmed today by the Clinton camp.

Jesus, I'm sick of this primary.

See post #15 and #22

You out there?

All the evidence he has is from the Wall Street Journal. I'm sure they have the union's best interests at heart.:eyes:

treads & flip- floping?

1) Republican paper
2) Anti union
3) have to buy a subscription to read the article
4) quotes a private agreement without a source even an anonymous one
5) Ties Union activity to mob activity


Is there no limit to how low you will go to support the failing candidacy of Clinton?

Have you no self respect left?

types.

Unassuming & earthy.

(I loved your post.)