If Obama is unelectable, why are republicans in Indiana voting for Hillary?

I met some this weekend. When they told me they were republican and voting for Hillary I asked: "To mess with the democrats or to make it easier for McCain to win?" They all said the latter but laughed that they didn't mind that they were messing with dems too.

I think the "he's not electable" argument goes out the window with these republicans voting for Hillary because they think she'd be easier to beat.

I'm not going to say the GOP is smart but they have bloodied us pretty badly the last 10 years or more so they seem to know what they are doing. We've had the WH far fewer years than they have since FDR. I'm not willing to say they are idiots to want to run against Hillary.

What am I missing here?

against Obama.

I agree with him. Several Republicans and Pundits have openly
said the same. They see Obama as the weaker candidate.

"Republicans who back Clinton for the Democratic nomination are about twice as likely as Obama backers to say their choice is based on the belief that the candidate is the weaker of the two Democrats."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106993/Republicans-Divided-Preferences-Democratic-Nominee.aspx

is what they wanted. Unless, they know it is already over so they want a head start to define Obama before he has a chance to define himself because he is involved in a fight with Hillary.

That is one reason why I'm happy Obama has all those donors and money available to him. The media is going to spin for McCain the whole time. At least with the money Obama can try to get his message out there despite the media bias.

My husband is a Republican. He will vote for Obama, (fed up with Republicans) but he would never never vote for HIllary. The Republicans-including-Rush want Hillary to help shore up conservatives who do not like McCain. Hillary is a very polarizing figure in Republican circles. She will bring out conservative voters in droves. Look who Republicans attack...and who they praise. Watch Fox News...they want HIllary because this is probably the only chance they have to win the GE. Also, Mark H. is pro-Clinton. I am a political junkie, and I have seen him often.

Obama.

would be to find someone for Rethug voters to vote against, rather than trying to find a Rethug they'd vote FOR. That's been my belief since the idea of a Pres. run for HRC was introduced via corporate media a year ago.

Gallup confirms what those Repubs told you.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106993/Republicans-Divided-Preferences-Democratic-Nominee.aspx

"Republicans who back Clinton for the Democratic nomination are about twice as likely as Obama backers to say their choice is based on the belief that the candidate is the weaker of the two Democrats."

Is that they can't quite get on the same page. (For a change - Thank f*cking god!)

Some vote for Obama for the wrong reasons too, with much the same sort of logic you describe as compelling some republicans to vote Clinton.

That and they like to see us fight. They are more than happy to help somebody off the mat so long as that candidate gets up and pummels the other democrat,

btw; regarding electability - Polar bears do great in the arctic, but not so great in the Amazon. It could be interpreted as a similar dynamic - Obama may appeal to a democratic population, but not the population at large. Or perhaps the stance one must take to energize the democratic base to win the primary can easily can be presented in a distorted manner by republicans during the general election, thus becoming an insurmountable liability. They don't tend to have this problem because many of their positions are so repugnant that they've had plenty of practice in honing dog-whistle phrases that allow them to talk out of both sides of their mouths.

Before I get flamed let me state that I mention offer my take on Obama here for illustration purposes only.

I'm NOT saying that's the case in this post.

wisdom not point this out, when they're telling us how Joe Sixpack won't go for Obama. Joe Sixpack has been voting against his own interests since Reagan (and before), but there should be a smart pundit who speaks up and says that Obama "not closing the deal" is due largely to Republican dirty tricks?

Operation Chaos anyone?

if a super believes the GOP has been messing with our primary so we nominate the candidate they think will be most easy to beat, the superdels should fix it.

many undeclared SD's left.

are the moderate and independent voters.

We tend to vote democratic in the GE, but we're tired of the democratic party forcing extreme left wing candidates on us.

It leaves us with a "picking the lesser of two evils" type of decision.

No, thank you.

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in my opinion are forcing Barack Obama in.

The fact that they are discounting voters in two states, and declaring the primary over before it technically is, as well as pushing for some unknown, inexperienced Senator for POTUS is pretty telling.

Sounds like "W" two to me. Only on the left this time.

hmmmmm.

The independents clearly will continue to get the raw end again, and many of us are fed up with it all.

... perhaps you've already been there?

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there are no extreme leftists in the Democratic Party

Centrism as practiced by Clinton types is only a function of corruption... they have the same paymasters as the Republicans

Do you define "Left" as being Anti-Iraq invasion?

If so... then 70% of the U.S. is now "extreme left."

Ya'all did Dean the same way... bought into the corporate media spin... the lying, war profiteering, Republican Spin.

NOT THIS TIME

that's why the Democrats continue to lose.

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That is a statistical fact

you're parroting GOP talking points that have no foundation in reality...
only tactical, propoganda value.

You are not an Independent.

And 2006 showed, they really don't know what they're doing.