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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:34 PM
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Why can't he close this deal?
I keep seeing this meme trotted out by Camp Hillary over and over again. Why can't Obama put Clinton away? Why hasn't every single person on the planet united behind obama? We've seen the tune sung a few different ways, but it's all the same song...the implication that since Obama has run as the "uniter" candidate it's somehow on him to covert everyone.

I'm going to use a sports analogy so brace yourselves. If the Primary were a football game Obama would be up 49-21 with minutes to go in the 4th quarter. Most people on both sides of the stands know the game is over, although a few are convinced that their team is going to score four touchdowns in the last two minutes and force a tie. But just because one team has a big lead, you don't stop playing the game.

This whole "why can't he close the deal" meme is just more disingenuous spin from Camp Hillary. The fact of the matter is, it's incumbent on Hillary to decide when this is over. She's lost. She can't catch Obama in pledge delegates. She's not going to catch him in popular vote. Her only chance at this point is to complain to the rules committee (if you'll allow me to indulge in my football analogy a bit further) and try to either change the rules that she agreed to play by, or try to convince them that her touchdowns should be worth more than seven points each.

The reason Obama "can't close the deal" is because - like in most other competitions - you either keep playing until the clock runs out or until BOTH teams admit that it's over. So really, the question camp Hillary should be asking is why do you still think Hillary can win? Why is she still playing?
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:36 PM
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1. Yep. And by the way, why is Hillary trailing? nt
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:38 PM
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2. That's Another Question Camp Hillary Should be Asking Itself
Hillary was the pre-season #1 ranked team in the country. She had every advantage going into the primary. Name recognition. Senator from one of the most populous and influential states in the country. Massive intra-party support. Huge leads in the polls.

What happened?
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:02 PM
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11. Even more than that ...
she has been running for a decade and a half ... She has the Big Dog as her queen on the chess board, the ultimate campaigner at her bidding ...

Fact is, as the sports anology highlights, BO has pulled off what might be one of the most stunning defeats in our politcal history, and it just running out the clock ...

It burns me to NO end when the MSM parrots that nonsense ... The ulimate in spinning reality in a mirror ...

But, it serves the current purpose of trying like heck to tear BO down ...
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:38 PM
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3. Have you seen KO's latest RE: Hillary's 'rules' and how she and her surrogates move the goalposts...
...every time Obama DOES close the deal? Hell he's closed it a few times. The KO piece is HIL(L)ARIOUS - and he covers every dumbass thing Hillary has said to DISCOUNT, DENY, and MINIMIZE Obama's winning. NONE of it counts, if you ask her.

But Hillary W. bu$h keeps changing HER rules - then her surrogates and echo chamber broadcast that to the media -- and they trumpet it.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:42 PM
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4. Haven't seen it but I'm sure I'd agree
and I agree that the primary has pretty much been closed since Hillray failed to win TX/OH by enough of a margin to have any hope of catching up in delegates. Some argue that it was over before that, some argue that it was over after that, some argue that it's still not over...and that's fine. That was just the point of no return for me. Everything after that has been nothing but a continuation of the campaign in the hope that the DNC will make her the nominee against the will of the people at the convention.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:44 PM
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5. .....Because Democracy is more complicated than selling a used car??
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delt664 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:52 PM
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6. 100 % on target.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:55 PM
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7. Correct: Wars end when the *LOSER* concedes.
Only a fool decides "Mission Accomplished".

Tesha
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:57 PM
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8. Why hasn't she closed the deal?
She brags that she has the experience; she's been vetted; she's the leader. Why is she trailing? Why don't people trust her?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:46 PM
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20. Last fall, Hillary rolled into Iowa in her Cadillac campaign with "inevitable" on her vanity plates
and we were given to understand that the GE would be rolled out as soon as we voted. Nevermind that there was a full field of other candidates with ideas, hers were the only ones that counted and her campaign was perfect. Well, we didn't buy it and a lot of other states haven't either--31 to be exact. Thirty-one states said she wasn't inevitable. I'd like someone to explain to me all of the questions you asked and why it is okay for her to break the rules continually.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:22 PM
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22. just askin' the questions I hear
from others around me.

I no longer have a horse in this race. I just wish it was over already. Every day it drags on, is one more day we can't attack mclame.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:59 PM
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9. One difference -- in a sports competition there is no danger in
Edited on Tue May-06-08 01:59 PM by nichomachus
continuing the game until the last out or until the buzzer has sounded.

However -- even in sports, when a coach or manager knows it's over, he will pull his starters and put in the second string, because he doesn't want to permanently damage the team by risking injury to them for nothing.

In this case, the team (party) is suffering severe damage, perhaps fatal.

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:00 PM
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10. That's a MEDIA driven issue. HRC needs to drop out, but she wouldn't know GRACE and TEAM
Edited on Tue May-06-08 02:00 PM by ShortnFiery
PLAY if they crawled on top of her head and set up camp. :eyes:
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:09 PM
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16. there is no I in team, but there is a Me
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:03 PM
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12. Look over there!
shiny
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:06 PM
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13. Keep playing because the rookie, Obama has a tendency to fumble the ball.
;-)
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:37 PM
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17. Only Makes Sense if by Fumble the Ball
You mean overcome an insurmountable lead. Camp Hillary continues to forget that it was not Obama who entered this contest with a huge lead. This is one of those rational things that seems to keep getting lost. Obama was the underdog. Not Hillary. With the exception of a handful of people, everyone figured Hillary had this locked up. In the primaries, you don't get points for not losing, which is all Hillary has left...playing to not lose instead of playing to win.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:08 PM
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14. And I'll bet some of the Clinton supporters would cry 'Foul' .....
anyway if Barack Obama did 'Close The Deal' .... before rest of the states primary's played out. You know it, I know it and they know it. In just another convoluted spin in Hillary-ville, they would come up with something. Probably played along the line of 'disenfranchisement' of the states who hadn't voted yet or some shit.....
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:08 PM
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15. he can't close the deal? SHE can't even get the sales appointment!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:39 PM
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18. The game ain't over. There's 2 minutes on the clock & she's less than 2 touchdowns down.
She doesn't have a plausible chance of winning the nomination, but she does have a shot in a million chance.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:50 PM
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21. She's a heck of a lot more than two thouchdowns back
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:41 PM
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19. Good analogy - even if I do hate sports. nt
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:27 PM
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23. Yup and WHY can't Hillary get her negatives
down on trustworthiness. (rhetorical question cause of course she can't when she keep lying)
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:31 PM
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24. What typically happens is that the person in the lead has so much momentum...
that states following the first several typically "fall way" to the leader until that leader reaches a majority of delegates. The closest candidates then step down.

That didn't happen this year. Clinton still wins states, and she's behind by less than a million votes. Neither can reach the 2025 necessary to achieve the nomination, so the problem is that it's much, much too close and must be played out in full.
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