I honestly am sad about Hillary........

I am a 1000% supporter of Obama now but still so sad and disappointed that Hillary turned out like she has.

I used to love the Clintons and loved Bill Clinton. I was so excited when Hillary was going to run for president. And thought she would win easily.

Then she turned into this "Win at all cost" person whos EGO was out of control. She started to say anything she could to win the nomination. And the arrogance about being the nominee turned me off. And Bill turned out to be a bitter man who would do anything to help Hillary win.

Then she mocked Obama and she made fun of his speeches and supporters. At that point I felt like I lost a best friend. Someone who I used to respect and they totally disappointed me.

I saw Hillary for who she really was and felt stupid for supporting her. That is when Obama became my candidate. I realized real change would not come from Hillary. Just the same old school Washington politics.

Maybe this sounds corney but it is 100% honest.

Barack, you are the first and only candidate I have ever gave money too and made phone calls for!

Good luck tonight Barack Obama! You are a once in a lifetime candidate!

She's fought a hard campaign. I think she's won some short term gains in exchange for long term harm to her ability to govern. But there's nothing's she said that I couldn't get past if I needed to. Sure, she's a diminished role model and she's possibly even done some lasting damage to her husband's legacy. It's a shame, but it's inevitable.

Had she been the nominee, it's clear this is the kind of campaign she'd run in the fall--take the fight to the them, never wind up on the defensive. McCain, of course, would hit back a hell of a lot harder than Obama has. I hope Obama learns a few lessons from Clinton. But I'll be even more glad to see him get this nomination run all finished up.

the mocking made me sad too.

:hi: I share your thoughts about the Clintons.

Same here.

I actually was excited about a Hillary presidency. Now, the thought makes me ill.

Me too... The mocking was what did it for me as well. Although I was for Biden, not really for Hillary even at the start. Obama took some getting used to for me, but now I really really love him. I do think he is a truly transformative candidate... can't wait to see what he'll do in the White House!

It was obvious what kind of person she was when she was caught with FBI files about her political enemies during Bill's administration. The woman is power hungry sociopath.

And....

Welcome to DU! :hi: :)

sad about that.

To hell with their family and legacy.

But it is a shame that the first viable female candidate had to be her. Ugh.

She didn't. I look forward to the next ones. May we have a deserving embarrasment of riches a few years from now.

... who I would support heavily, though we have Ahnuld now to appoint her replacement as an additional element holding this back.

I hope Hillary's sore effort this time doesn't hold someone like Boxer back in the future!

our disappointment! Remarkable? I think there are lot of people who share our opinion. Problem: I gave $$ to Clinton's campaign and she used it the wrong way.

I traveled to little Rock and toured the Clinton library in '04. I cried like a baby cause I missed them so much! What happened!!

pops off with ....."enough with the speeches and the big rallies"

Its funny but also so sad that that is what she has become.

It really sets the tone. :D

I know the feeling :hi:

to blame for all the support going to Obama.
Likewise,
Obama is totally responsible for his own rise in the polls, using his secret weapon, honesty!

And if you told me 10 years ago that I wouldn't be supporting her run for president I'd be really surprised. And my decision not to support her a lot less to do with her than it did with how inspiring I found Obama. I am very disappointed in Clinton's campaign tactics, and may have to hold my nose to vote for her in the fall. But every now and then, she shows her softer side and pulls at my heartstrings a little and reminds me of the woman I grew up admiring.

Mom says "difficult times bring out a person's true character." Well, these have been difficult times for the Clintons and I don't think they've risen to the occasion.

I started out an Edwards supporter and moved on to Obama, but I was always a Hillary admirer...until this primary season. She's shown her true colors I'm afraid. I am doubly sad because I think Bill behaved in a way that will tarnish his legacy among Dems.:(

Heres hoping for an Obama sweep today.

:rofl: Someone here... I forget who... has a sig line I love:

How do you vote for Hillary? clothespins and lots of booze..

That's not it exactly, but there's the general idea. It makes me smile everytime I read it:D

pretty much ditto too, except for the first time donor part...

I have been struggling to keep an open mind about Hillary, and I haven't sunk to a level of loathing yet but I have definitely lost a lot of respect for her. If she keeps her promise and gets squarely behind Obama if he wins the nomination, it will go a long way toward healing wounds. I think the same can be said for both candidates, really, but I have no reason to believe that Obama wouldn't support her if she were to wrap up the nomination.

my opinion of Hillary has definitely been knocked down a few notches, however I'm still committed to voting for her if she wins the primary. Ultimately we have two very good candidates running, I just wish it hadn't gotten so ugly and so personal.

I love and respect her more than I ever have. I think people are too ready to believe the lies told about her because it favors their candidate. That's a shame.

:thumbsup:

If people did not have a problem with Hillary by then...

Well, that's all I will say.

Clinton must be perfect or you all hate her. She has done nothing different than Obama, and yet he gets a free pass...Clinton?


"Then she turned into this "Win at all cost" person whos EGO was out of control. She started to say anything she could to win the nomination. And the arrogance about being the nominee turned me off. And Bill turned out to be a bitter man who would do anything to help Hillary win."

Obama actually suggested that Clinton was partially responsible for Bhutto--HER FRIEND'S--death. What a horric thing to say. And to top it off, is shows a complete lack of historical knowledge.

"Then she mocked Obama and she made fun of his speeches and supporters. At that point I felt like I lost a best friend. Someone who I used to respect and they totally disappointed me." Where are you when Obama mocks Clinton? Where are you when he calls her names and shouts "Racism!" from the rooftops of SC and NC?

"I saw Hillary for who she really was and felt stupid for supporting her. That is when Obama became my candidate. I realized real change would not come from Hillary. Just the same old school Washington politics. Maybe this sounds corney but it is 100% honest."

Not corney: uninformed, biased, with eyes shut and ears covered and shouting lalalalala to avoid seeing the actions of Obama.

it's sad.

who very openly and kindly shared her feelings of disappointment - not hate as you so blatantly claimed.

Are you so enamoured of your candidate that you think anyone who disagrees with her, is disappointed with her or otherwise doesn't think she's the second coming is full of "wall-chewing hate" or is an idiot being manipulated by the lies?

Your attacks on the OP say much more about you than they do about anything she said.

I'm not using one post as an example. I'm using literally hundreds of posts here that rely on right wing talking points, dredging up old scandals, contain obvious and outright lies, or call explicitly for Clinton not to be defeated, but to be destroyed.

Posts that call her a murderer. Posts that call her a bitch, a witch, a cunt. Posts that call her evil.

That's hate.

kind.

Your approach: THAT'S bullshit.

calls her ego out of control and slams Bill. I think that's nonsense.

I would say that you should be ashamed, but sadly, it seems you have no shame.

all you want be we know that is exactly what it is. We posted a rseponse to a vile, lie-filed thread, and you all pretend that we should cut the op some slack cause she feels bad. Well she damn well should feel bad. She is attacking a progressive democrat who has a life-time of progressive service to this country, and her attacks are based on distortions and lies and right-wing hack jobs.

You've now reached the point where even the mildest criticism of your candidate - saying one is "disappointed" in her because they expected better - is interpreted by you as "vile" and "lie-filled."

Anyone reading the OP and then reading your over-the-top reactions to them can clearly see where the distortion lies. You and your buddy have responded to a reasonable, eloquent and very fair post with lies, smears, attacks that is little more than an outright childish hissyfit.

I know this is a bad night for your candidate - just as Obama has had some bad nights - but it's really a shame that you are lashing out this way. It only makes you look irrational and certainly does not do a lick of good for your candidate.

Maybe you should take a break and go do something else for awhile.

I can honestly say I don't give a fuck. So you think THIS particular OP doesn't rise to the level of hate. I do. I've seen SO much hate here, it's disgusting. It's like FreeRepublic. Obama fans are, for the most part, vile liars.

Well said! :thumbsup:

Why aren't the media looping her "Rich people. God bless us" comment? Clinton & Clinton have DEFINITELY been the ones getting the free pass. If I see that garbage comment one more time, I'll :puke:

we aren't happy with her for the MULTITUDE of reasons she has given us.

We aren't happy with her because she is not only NOT PERFECT, but she is one of the worst kind of politicians there are that will say or do anything to get their way.

And like the OP, I was with her until SHE gave me every reason NOT TO BE.

So, you really haven't got your sh** right about why we don't like her, but i see why it's an easy cop-out to pin it on 'she's not perfect'

He started running for office as soon as he was sworn in as Senator. He is ego personified.

And he was pretty well content to let a whisper campaign painting the Clintons as racists take hold and run through the primaries. Oh, he keeps himself at arm's length from it, but the day that someone paints Bill and Hillary Clinton as racists - and gets away with it - is a sad day.

said that McCain had more experience to be the POTUS. After that, I could not even look at her.

This race has been full of heartbreak and betrayal for many loyal Democrats and long-time Clinton supporters. It raises so many questions. Have the Clintons really been like this all along or have they changed? Is it Stockholm Syndrome? Or was it just cold, political calculation that led them to believe this was the only possible path to victory?

Who knows how things would have turned out if they had decided to go in another direction?

Even if he wins the Presidency this fall, he's going to turn out to have feet of clay, and he's going to disappoint you, even break your hearts.

They all do.

Bake

seen in the same building with the man. He and his wife have forever lost my support unless they do MAJOR fence mending and help Obama win the GE.

Feel the hope?

... I really feel like crying when I look at the results. Whether she brought it on herself or not ... whether Bill has been a big pain in the ass or not ...

... Underneath, she's still Hillary Clinton. The woman from the Hillary-Tipper-Al-Bill bus tour. The Eleanor-Roosevelt-style First Lady. Part of the team that made me cry with joy in 1992.

The first serious woman candidate, to boot.

Can't help feeling very sad tonight.

I felt the same way.

Right. Uh huh. Wasn't born yesterday.

conduct or Bill's in these times

And one thing that she did that I will always admire. During the Lewinsky debacle, only Hillary showed one ounce of grace. What her motivation for that grace was is between Hillary and Bill. But of all the people in that silly show, Hillary stood tall and therefore powerful.

She's a helluva gal and though she might not have done everything like Obama I hope will do, I still would have felt a BEAUCOUP MORE CONFIDENT WITH HILLARY than McCain.

We have not seen the last of that one.

Of course no one here on DU worked for the opposing candidate, right?

she deserved to lose at that point.

They've been so spoiled with power and privilege for so long they think that they are ENTITLED to a third term within The Executive Branch.

Not. This. Time.

Until HRC drops out. NO SLACK! :nuke: