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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:42 PM
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In case you haven't yet memorized it, Al Giordano lays out our primary day ritual ...
Edited on Tue May-06-08 02:46 PM by FLDem5
http://208.76.84.21/thefield/?p=1160

By now, we all ought to know the drill.

The day begins with the Clinton campaign “leaking” something to the Drudge Report to set expectations for the day. That then gets repeated on political blogs and cable news, where Clinton surrogate Terry McAuliffe elaborates. Today’s “expectation”: That the Clinton campaign expects a “15 point” defeat in North Carolina. Clinton’s yapping puppies in the news media repeat the manufactured expectation all day long, in which the bar is supposedly now that if Clinton comes within 15 points in that state that she has somehow “won” with a 14 point (or 6 point) defeat.

Around 4 p.m. rumors of exit polls begin circulating on the Internet. Around 5:30 p.m. AP and other news organizations leak minor data from the exit polls that explains almost nothing of value. Sometime after 6 p.m. Drudge posts raw numbers from exit polls that - if past is prologue - show Obama doing an average of seven percentage points better than he actually does.

Obama supporters then get prematurely jubilant and after polls close (tonight at 7 p.m. ET in Indiana and 7:30 p.m. ET in North Carolina) the real results start to come in and reveal Clinton then doing “better than expected” (at least better than the new expectations promoted during the day).

The media talking heads then ask aloud why Obama can’t “close the deal” (in Clinton’s own words) and what is numerically a defeat for Clinton (because the results, even in her recent wins, bring her objectively farther from the nomination in the context of the smaller number of delegates then available) gets spun as a Clinton victory.


Act I was just fabulous, the pundits performance was brilliant... Act II is set to begin shortly.

Enjoy the show....
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:45 PM
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1. Soundz about right
:boring:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:45 PM
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2. Sigh. It's be funny if it weren't true.
Also, the gov of NC was interviewed; claimed results of polls won't be known til early morning. I got a twinge, like, what could possibly be happening between the time the polls close and the results known?:think:
Sigh.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:49 PM
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6. And the Obama-leaning precincts will come in last.
Just like PA. And they'll be magically thin margins. Just like PA. Just sayin'.

I really hope I'm wrong, here.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:52 PM
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7. of course!
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:00 PM
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13. Does NC have a Rendell sort of machine that's managing the vote margins?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:45 PM
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3. Hilarious
That's the script alright.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 04:59 PM
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18. It is. Every damned primary. nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:47 PM
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4. Verbatim.......
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:48 PM
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5. Which results are the real ones though? The leaked numbers or the official electronic returns?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:50 PM
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15. I guess we'll never know.
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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:54 PM
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8. You got it.
And we fall for it every time.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:59 PM
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10. yes, we do.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:57 PM
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9. I will give the Hillary campaign credit
They have mastered the game of setting expectations.

IMO, Obama should have made a statement explaining this pattern, in line with his "more of that Washington politics" message, to pre-empt the BS.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:00 PM
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11. Sure enough. K&R to the GP. n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:00 PM
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12. Wouldn't it be nice if more people were critical thinkers?
Sad that this kind of transparent BS becomes "conventional wisdom" simply because a few overpaid hacks on TV repeat the BS.

:banghead:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:40 PM
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14. but they fall for it, every time.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:55 PM
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16. Saw that earlier, and it just made my day!
:rofl:
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 04:42 PM
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17. Act II is underway!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5844885&mesg_id=5844885

Exit poll info from AP and Drudge starting to come out. Looks a little ahead of schedule....
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:22 PM
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19. thanks.
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