Hillary Clinton has been a Democrat for 40 years......

All those people accusing her and her supporters of having anything to do with GOP have no idea of what being a Democrat is all about...........AND you can kiss my Democratic ass. I'm a stark raving Liberal, damn proud of it AND I support Hillary Clinton. Deal with it.

since she started out republican, and switched to Dem when she was @22, while he started out Dem and switched to Republican when he was 51, in 1962.

at least he was decent enough to swap parties and not stick around to sully ours like Hillary.

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being a Republican also?

marched with Dr. King in fact.

Tenure has nothing to do with it. Integrity and honesty does.

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is MORE of a Democrat than Hillary.

And not all that long ago. Such a Democrat, that Obama. Gimmeabreak.

he asks for, unless there are egregious reasons not to - such as wanting somebody to run Education who has previously said they want to eliminate the Department of Education, or putting an extractions industry CEO in charge of Interior.

Condi is incompetant and unqualified for that position, but has never done anything that stands in anthesis to that position, so there was no real reason not to give it to her, if that's who the president wanted.

Just askin'.

All that innuendo and outright bigotry combined with the most cynically craven use of GOP tactics and media has struck at the core of what it means to be liberal and a Democrat.

It must be a swan.

Or Joe Lieberman?

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That's all I'd like to know.

How could I have been so wrong? When did she become the enemy of the Democratic party? Before or after she was the first lady of the United States? When did she announce her change of party affiliation? I must have been sleeping or you must be psychic. By the way...when did Obama get in this race to save the Democratic party? The Dems had this election in the bag till he jumped in...now it's uncertain...so who is really the one who put this party in jeopardy? It was not Hillary so you'd better re-think your post.

The fact that she won so heavily in the "less than college educated" category doesn't surprise me.

Who is going to work for the working class from now on? Obama wants to get along with the Rethugs and if you think he is going to fight for real Democratic issues...I've gotta bridge for sale.

It's sad the MSM have started referring to the working class as the less educated....how elitist! That keeps the MSM from having to say that Hillary is getting the real Democrats and Obama is getting the DINO's. That's why Obamites accuse Hillary of being a DINO. They are projecting and trying to hide the fact who is the real one. Obama is the DINO!

I worked my ass off for Bill Clinton in '92 but I did not vote for him in the primary for the same reason I'm not supporting Hillary -- they ARE the DLC. Hillary is the heart of the DINO Democrats.

especially considering the fact that Clark & others are now telling her to step down for the sake the party. If she does, maybe I won't call her a DINO anymore.

On edit: Clinton is more pro-"working-class" than Obama?? And NAFTA fits into this story HOW? And please don't give me the "Obama is an elitist" meme unless you can back it up with some actual facts.

Did I miss something? Do you have a link for that?

http://www.americablog.com/2008/05/breaking-wesley-clark-reportedly-called.html
But apparently it's been confirmed a rumor as of now.

What I said before still stands: I'll stop calling her a DINO when she starts to show more consideration for the party (and defeating McCain!) over herself.

You pegged it exactly, Auntie. Thanks.

Who is going to work for the working class from now on? Obama wants to get along with the Rethugs and if you think he is going to fight for real Democratic issues...I've gotta bridge for sale.

It's sad the MSM have started referring to the working class as the less educated....how elitist! That keeps the MSM from having to say that Hillary is getting the real Democrats and Obama is getting the DINO's. That's why Obamites accuse Hillary of being a DINO. They are projecting and trying to hide who is the real one. Obama is the DINO!

Thank you.

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and she's going back to her roots. She has betrayed the Democratic Party and the American people. Support who ever you want to support but don't try to convince me that she's still a Democrat. Hillary cares about hillary, nothing else.

It's not really that complicated.

here, and lying for even longer.

"AND you can kiss my Democratic ass."

Ewww! I'll pass.

He should say 37-38 years. :shrug:

It is probably in her bio

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but I voted for Obama.

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She's been an elected democratic representative for 8 years. Prior to that she was married to a democrat and not actively working for the party or its goals...all though she may have been registered as one.

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on this thread.

Mindless party loyalty like the Republican base?

always been dems and we've always been liberals. We have paid huge prices for our union support and being liberals in red areas. I know what dems are and what they are supposed to do and believe. Hillary needs to read up. If that weren't so, then the shit storm everyone is complaining about would not be on her head. She earned it.

What has she done to promote the interests of Democrats and/or the Democratic Party? She's always been about her own ambition and nothing else.

about how great he is.

There are numerous examples. Zell Miller, Holy Joe, Landrieu, Salazar, Nelson, Nelson, Lincoln, Rockefeller, Byrd, Conrad, Lincoln, Feinstein, etc. have all taken positions against the party in the past. Does continuing to support this kind of behavior make for a "good Democrat"?

I would say not. I would say that this ensures only more of the same kinds of Democrats.

You can support who you wish, but you do not get to define what "solid Democrat" is for this community...many of us have different definitions of the term. I would wager that a majority of the opinion here holds that allying oneself with Sciafe and Fox News does not make for a "solid Democrat". Nor does signing into law a string of major industry deregulations, favored trade nation status to China, draconian welfare reform, and media consolidation make for a "solid Democrat", either....at least by my personal definition.

Your post is an excellent introduction to an argument you failed to make. So, tell us: What is being a Democrat all about? And what does it have to do with a fear campaign? Threatening nations with obliteration? Voting for unnecessary war, and torture?

...my ignore list grows.

and your point is what, again?

Sounds good to me :thumbsup: I will be voting for a Democrat in November, in fact I am voting for every Democrat this November......

Insider all the way.

I'm not calling Hillary a puke, yet I do acknowledge that voters seeking a new kind of politics would not call her 40 years an asset anymore.

And I'm not liking it much. Stark raving is a good descriptor for a "liberal" who supports Hillary Clinton. Or Bill Clinton, for that matter.

her "obliterate iran" comment?


as a stark raving liberal myself, I don't see how you could support Clinton and her stand on the war. Unless you're a stark raving liberal who is for war and corporate domination, which would be an oxymoron.

quite different. Indiana is now 6% apart. Spin that.

DLC set itself up as a "third way" which is neither Democratic nor Republican, while co-opting the Democratic party structure.

She's no Democrat. Deal with it.

Zell used to be a Democrat, too.

long time Democrats.

Were it not for Republicans and Independents, who may or may not be there in November, Obama would have long been out of the race (even though I am glad that both have stayed, giving more voters the opportunity to express their preferences).

...and the irony is that the Bots atre the first to cry, "Rovian tactics!"

from the Republicans to use against Obama? It's been a shameful spectacle. I've watched elections for decades and never seen anything like this.

They don't have a fucking clue about the Democratic Party. Come November they will fade away.

Real Dems uncovered BushInc's illegal operations and Jackson Stephens' tapped Dems from Arkansas COVERED THOSE MATTERS UP FOR BUSHINC.

Hillary began her political life as a Goldwater Girl and is now far to the right of that.

Some people were and are Democrats In Name Only. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they just want their cause, er, their candidate to win. See, it's a game.

Welcome to the Democratic Project for an Old American Century.

Busy calling Dems who dare not vote for her latte sipping Volvo driving liberals?

Sorry but I look at actual details and facts. She has been running a Republican campaign, based on fear and division. It disgusts me.

And I agree with you. :)

...I really have trouble seeing how a "stark raving liberal" could support a hawkish, centrist, triangulating, DLC leader. I just don't get it.

Alot longer than Hill too.

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Damn right. I'm a Hillary supporter too. On we go.

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The leader has to be practical and a realist, yet must talk the language of the visionary and the idealist.-Eric Hoffer

NAFTA, Telecommunications Act of 1996 which consolidated media, drug testing in the workplace for no good reason, and on and on.
Those are not policies FOR the people, they are CORPORATE policies (GOP).