True or false? Harold Ickes: We Have A "Number" Of Super-Dels Ready To Move To Hillary

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Harold Ickes: We Have A "Number" Of Super-Dels Ready To Move To Hillary
By Greg Sargent - May 6, 2008, 4:24PM


Hillary's chief delegate hunter, Harold Ickes, claims in an interesting new interview with Time mag that he's bagged some big super-del game for Hillary:

"There are a number of people who have told us they are very pro-Hillary but they have circumstances that they want to wait until those circumstances come into effect before they move."

Look, we've heard media reports again and again that a big bloc of super-dels were about to move to Obama en masse. Though Obama has obviously had a steady stream of them heading his way for months now, and is getting awfully close to tying her in super-del support, none of these big dramatic movements ever materialized.

I'd argue that any promises from Ickes that a number of super-dels will soon move into her camp should be greeted with even more skepticism.

:dilemma:

And I already know the DU CW on him.

a NEGATIVE number. ;)

Clinton campaign's got nothing to gain by sitting on SDs.

:shrug:

no names were given, there are obviously *some* super-delegates who like clinton, plausible deny-ability, etc.

in other words, this could mean anything from "there are 500 super-delegates who will support hillary clinton on may 8" to "i talked to one guy who likes hillary but said that he also likes obama so he's going to wait it out".

in other words, this guy basically said nothing. and it's hard to call somebody a liar when they say nothing. no substance. and for a guy in his position, if there is no substance, it means that they don't have many/anybody lined up to come over to support HRC.

One way or the other.

Just vote for the Democrat, whatever you do. Please.

Lots of smoke and mirrors propping up the Clinton camp.

That's fair enough.

If he had some delegates lined up then he would have had them announce. Unlike Hillary's surrogates, the Obama camp hasn't strongarmed their opponents.

It honestly smacks of desperation to me.

:shrug:

It ain't gonna happen.

oops I see someone already beat me to this!

They're trying to keep superd's on board.

trouble is that he is talking to politicians and party officials who have a vested interest in obscuring the truth.

I think he probably has 3 or 4 to take the sting out of the NC - if IN is a 5 or more percentage win for Hillary. If it is closer than that or if Obama wins Indiana then 2 max and all other bets are off.

Unless they're even dumber than I thought.

He needs 70% of them

knows where the, or indeed any maneuverability is to be found in the rules & procedures :shrug: