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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:27 PM
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Some of the folks celebrating tonight are going to be surprised when Hillary refuses to drop out.
Nothing significant changed for Hillary tonight.

She was mathematically out of the race a long time ago. She didn't drop out. She dug in.

She is going to fight this all the way to Denver.

That's what I think. Dropping out just isn't in her nature.
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:27 PM
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1. somehow i don't think that is going to happen
a little bird told me so.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:27 PM
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2. The media has turned, Superdelegates are going to flock.
She's leaving.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:41 PM
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27. Yes - the media has smelled the coffee. The storyline is now different.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:28 PM
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3. The MONEY IS GONE. Whether she "drops out" officially or not is immaterial.

The race is over.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:29 PM
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4. The supers, and more importantly her supporters are going to read the writing on the wall.
Edited on Tue May-06-08 11:29 PM by JVS
She also is out of money. She can do what she wants, but everyone else is going to leave her.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:29 PM
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5. Who is going to pay for her plane tickets, and her staff, and venues?
She will wind down her campaign beginning tomorrow.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:29 PM
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6. She's done. She's out.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:29 PM
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7. With no money and no donors?
Not a chance in hell. Maybe she stays in through May 20, but I doubt it. Who's giving to her campaign now? She lost NC by 220,000 votes, and may pull out a 5,000 vote victory in Indiana, maybe not.

It's over. She's done.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:48 PM
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32. 527s n/t
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:30 PM
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8. I'd agree...but why did she cancel all of her appearances tomorrow?
(assuming that's true)

Had I not heard that, I'd fully expect her to continue. However, canceling all media and campaign appearances seems to me a clear sign that she wants to make an announcement of her own.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:30 PM
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15. Probably just a day to regroup.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:34 PM
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22. I hope you're right.
But Bill didn't drop out even when the Monica scandal was at its most embarrassing, and because of that, I think Hillary won't, either. I think she'll hang in there until the convention. But I'd love to be wrong. :)
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:30 PM
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9. I would have believed that earlier tonght
...but not now. I was right there with you figuring that she was going to stay in regardless of tonight's result - right up until she cancelled her appearances for tomorrow.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:30 PM
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10. It's over. n.t.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:30 PM
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11. Money will drop her out
I don't think she wants to continue spending her own cash on this pipe dream.
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underscorer Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:30 PM
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12. All indicates she will drop out
She is canceling all her appearances tomorrow.
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:30 PM
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13. the media seems to have turned on her.
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ossman Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:30 PM
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14. She had to beg for money tonite
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:31 PM
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16. She will not go on if she can't raise $$$$
That will end it if nothing else does.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:31 PM
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17. Not me - I expected her to make a fool of herself all along
bill clinton would never allow her to quit - would be a poor reflection on him.

I think she will lose interest in the senate since that was obviously a stepping stone.

I wouldn't be surprised to see her walk away from the senate in 2012 if not before.

She's become a joke - she could regain a bit of dignity with a graceful exit - but she will never do it.

The clinton "legacy" is going down the shitter folks.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:31 PM
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18. I agree.
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:32 PM
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19. she was on life support. the plug has been pulled
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:32 PM
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20. She doesn't have the money or superdelegate support to fight to Denver.
Her own superdelegates will begin to pressure her to get out. Uncomitteds will be flooding to Obama.
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ZinZen Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:33 PM
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21. That is what my hubby is saying
it is not over until she actually says it is over.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:37 PM
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23. This 'win' in IN is a *significant* change for her
She was supposed to blow him out and look what's happened. It doesn't inspire any new confidence in the Supers, I'm sure. Tonight DID change the face of this race. If she continues it will be even worse for her politically than it would have been.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:39 PM
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24. I will not be surprised in the least. nm
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:40 PM
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25. My husband is saying the same thing.
That tomorrow is just a rest day or a day to consult her campaign attorneys.

I'll believe she's out when she says she's out. Of course, she's really BEEN out for a while, but you know what I mean.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:41 PM
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26. She doesn't have to drop out
It might be better for her to stay in and take her wins in KY and WV. She has been running a good and positive campaign these last few days, and no harm in a gradual transition.
She may be able to turn on a dime herself, but it will be a hard thing for most of her supporters. A few days is no harm.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:43 PM
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28. Finally we can share the joy of our nominee Obama though I still do not like HRC
it will take time for only time heals the wounds.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:45 PM
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29. She's worth $100 million
She can keep on without a hitch. Wouldn't surprise me if she did. She could pop up tomorrow with a Travis Bickle mohawk and it wouldn't surprise me.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:47 PM
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30. Won't matter now... the SDs will jump ship and shut her down
and there is the icky thing about MONEY :)

Stick a fork in her ....she's DONE
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:47 PM
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31. but its no fun to fight, when no one is paying attention
the media will begin to ignore her, or "Huckabee" her, and move on.
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:54 PM
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33. They are going to have to physically remove her.
Like the cartoon cat that refuses to go through the door....legs and tail blocking the doorway.....she is not going to give up.
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:56 PM
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34. I'm aware that might happen.
But I still feel like celebrating!:party:
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