>>>> The 24 Hour Hillary Pledge <<<<<

I will give her a 24 hour grace period. During that time she can talk to the SDs (and party leaders) and find a way to gracefully bow out. I will not attack her or offer any debate or conflict with her supporters. If after the 24 hour period she is still running and attacking, then all bets or off.

I am asking my fellow Obama supporters to take the same pledge

I'd better call her now and warn her!

She will ask for another debate soon. Kust watch her.

that sort of thing never happens in politics!

Which means this whole thing has kind of dried up for her.

They could self finance through August.

It wouldn't be worth it. She needs her donors to really step up at this point in order to continue.

I really do hope she continues through WV and KY.

Hopefully before the convention. Why is she still pushing the MI and FL issue?? If she is out of the race why is it her concern, (out meaning she can't beat him in pleged delegates, not taht she dropped out)?? she can't win even with MI and FL.

Forgive me, but I understood her argument, when it may have helped her, but now that it will not make any difference, why keep pushing the issue, unless, everything we have been speculating is true and from here on out she just want to run a smear campaign to wreak Obama's chances for the GE in Nov.?

She needs to freshen up some colors.

:)

But I would leave your credit cards at home

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Get some rest because tomorrow, ALL BETS ARE OFF!

what does that mean? That you guys will talk smack about her? Oh noes!

:)

more nasty and vile talking about Hillary?? Is that possible??

:)

I am sure your opinion alone and your threat of 'all bets are off' on an internet board....would make her quit right now. :sarcasm:

:rofl:

They are going to be rude and nasty.

They are going to spread a known & debunked lie.

They are going to call for Clinton to get out of the race.


Oh wait...

:)

some of her supportors.... not so much

It's time to start healing the rifts, one way or the other

thank you, ignore list!~

Howard Wolfson was just on MSNBC stating over and over again that Obama will lose GE because he can't win the swing states Hillary won.

So I don't think 24 hours is going to make any difference

I think this is what he would want us to do

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http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/vote-polls/IN.html

Those are some scary numbers. We'll have to put in a lot of serious kiss & make up time in the near future.

As long as she doesn't go on the attack against Obama, there's no harm in her staying in. She can even help Obama by staying in and providing cover for West Virginia and Kentucky, and perhaps by acting as his henchman temporarily by going after McCain. She will get out when she's ready and our complaining about her not dropping out is going to do nothing but alienate Clinton supporters.

and give Obama a break and let the party start healing. I figure 24 hours is a very reasonable time frame.

24 hours seems like a reasonable amount of time.

I may just have to log off until tomorrow.

in be able to walk away from a fight

:hi:

..that she might run past Kentucky and WV so that Obama won't loose to a non-contender.
Could be some sort of party loyalty in that - but its pure speculation though.

And not sure the difference will be that big, if she's in or not.

I think Obama needs some rest and down time.

is that she desperately needs to try to raise more money. She's seriously in debt -- 11.4 million to herself and goddess knows how much to small businesses she did business with. You can't even ask people for money if you're not in the race.

In state and local races, incumbents who are going to win in a landslide will often get some flunky to run against them -- just so the incumbent can shake down supporters for money.

They've thrown their best against Obama. Nothing (but Rezko) can touch him at this point.

:thumbsup:

Then we give her supporters 1 Week to act like Dems and to vent their loss.

But not until she calls it off.

take actions to try and make things better.

try and act better than our lesser instincts?

that's why I think it's helpful to give them a day to let the reality of the situation sink in. Make the phone calls and realize no one is supporting her any longer.

They're torching the tent that holds the party.

Is one day to let her realize what's happened and that no one supports her anymore that unreasonable?

Fuck her lackeys and their feelings.

and in the best possible manner. In the end, I believe that's what Obama would want us to do.

:)

:hi:

:eyes:

I will come back tomorrow and see what you guys do to Senator Clinton.

How exactly will tomorrow be different from any other day here on GDP? :eyes:

I'm with you.

:eyes:

:)

:hi:

and so a waste of energy to refute.
Time to move on to the real enemy: McCain.

and to engage her supporters. A pledge is a good way to avoid giving in to that temptation.

(at least among Democrats).

Because the main bad guy here is not her - it's john mcsame. And we better start focusing on him rather than each other.

this pledge does both, at least as far as what we can control

As long as she tries to tone it down.

and it does not relate to who was mean first, bla bla bla.

Hillary has made it clear that she intends to preessure the Rules Committee to seat Florida and Michigan, unleashing hell upon earth.

What you are asking us to do is the equivlent of asking two gunslingers to drop their weapons when one knows darn well the other has a gun hidden in his boot.

Just doesn't seem smart to me. Yet. When Hillary disarms, I'll be happy to do this.

Sorry, couldn't resist a bit o' snark.

Way to respect the rights of lifelong Democratic voters in key battleground States! :eyes:

...as far as I am concerned, her campaign is over and done. There is no way she can catch up and at this point in time, anything she does is pretty irrelevant ~~ assuming she does not personally attack Obama nor does she go into the dirty campaign mode again.

Obama is going to be the nominee. IMO, let the Clinton supporters enjoy the last parts of her campaign and let them get it out of their system so that they can come back and we can all unite. After all, the enemy is John McCain and the Repukes ~~ not Hillary and other Dems. If she was honest about supporting whomever is our nominee, then I am hoping her supporters will follow her lead.

JMHO

indication that they are dropping out.

Until then it's business as usual.

Sorry, McAuliffe was just on saying "On to Puerto Rico"

This is actually a pretty good idea.
Too bad she's showing no indications of bowing out gracefully.

Sign me up!

Good luck Senator Clinton!!!

David

Nine o'clock last night, or some time this morning?

n/t

"You will be visited by three SuperDelegates this eeev'neeeng, Hillareee..."

"Goad bless oos ev'ryone"

As far as im concerned, the primary is over.

Debating or bashing HRC or her supporters will gain absolutely nothing. That is a zero sum game.

I will stop bashing but will engage in polite discussion. I will encourage others to do the same.

"Just how many Cabinet positions do you think my soul is worth, mate?"

she is not backing out. she has made that abundantly clear. she needs to be FORCED out. it's the only type of politics she understands.

I am looking forward to seeing what kind of retaliatory measures you have planned. :eyes:

When does the show start?

:popcorn:

Question from Kathy Kiely
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/05/whats-new-4.html
How does Hillary Clinton win the nomination:
"Well Kathy you know there was just an AP article posted uh that found how , uh and how, uh the you know Whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me, and in, in Independents um I was running even with him, and and doing even better with Democratic-leaning Independents. I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on."

"There's a pattern emerging here," she said.

Here's the AP article to which she was likely referring:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jCBWmD0e6MLvwi4pu_dOcaFfi5BgD90HBDLG0