If Hillary won't listen to George McGovern or Wes Clark, then who?

We have a confirmed report that George McGovern has switched his support to Obama and has encouraged Hillary to drop out; additionally, there is a widely circulated rumor that Wes Clark called Hillary last night also suggesting it's time to drop out.

here:

http://www.americablog.com/2008/05/breaking-wesley-clark-reportedly-called.html

If she remains determined to continue, do you think it matters who suggests it is time to pull the plug? Al Gore, John Edwards, Howard Dean? Or will it take enough Super Delegates to make a move to support Obama in unison that it would be glaringly obvious that she will never win on a roll call vote at the convention?

I hope Hillary finds a way to withdraw gracefully and with respect from the party faithful. If not, then she may have to be (figuratively) pulled out the door less gracefully.

I think the revolving door syndrome might be waiting for her, or some other means to get that debt paid down, and perhaps even more heavy support for her to run for the senate again or the governorship if she "plays ball".

Those that are doing this are WANTING her to continue and destroy the Democrats chances at the White House, or at least destroy Obama's chances at the White House. We're talking about the K-Street crowd that wants to ensure the status quo isn't fixed by us "grass roots" Democrats wanting change through someone like Obaama.

I think if we want to shut this down, we need to understand the nature of what she's being promised by these guys to continue to play her destructive game that she's playing.

The Clintons aren't stupid. I can't believe they don't realize that every day longer they stay in this race, they destroy more and more of their legacy that they hope to have and the good will of the party and the people towards them. For them to pay this price, they must be getting something else back they need badly. If this can be found and exposed to the light, perhaps that would shut down this whole mess and perhaps with it the corporate lobbyist crowd to boot (and the DLC if we're lucky!).

the aspens are turning...

When he mentioned this I almost fell outta my chair after picking up my jaw.

:wtf: Why would/should Obama pick up her tab after everything her campaign has done to him?.?.?


I sure hope Obama doesn't even consider doing this, because the longer she stays in the bigger her debt will be astronomical.

:thumbsdown: Damn the superdelegates if they CONTINUE to stand by and let her trash both our Party and Obama. :grr:

And tell them to STOP Hillary from RUINING OUR CHANCES in the GE in November.

SHE

CAN'T

WIN!


WHY is she "running" UNLESS it is to destroy Obama and the Democrats' chances in November!?

Hellooooooo. It's OBVIOUS!

:)

claiming a popular "near tie" including MI and FL

convention... she'll go all the way maybe

not even BIll could do it IMO, I think (speculation) that she's made many compromises in exchange for his unyielding support on this issue, I don't think he'd dare cross her until she herself believes it's time. It'll take a trusted outsider, who can put out fires, but knows when to pull the firefighters out of harms way.

i think we might be even luckier than what i had at first thought getting obama instead of clinton

Maybe if Bill Clinton called a press conference and said HE was endorsing Obama, Hillary might get it?

Nah.... probably not.

with a message from above.

Apple pie in the sky, as if NC and IN didn't even happen.

Terry McCaullif was on earlier, too, saying "anything is possible", as if she can still win the nomination.

Geesh. Talk about delusional "group-think" !!

No sarcasm.

I don't think Hillary can see the forest for the trees - she is so entrenched in winning, that even as her house of cards crumbles around her - she thinks it's business as usual.

Let her stay in, I did not mind the contest until she started slinging shit at Obama.

If both talk about their PLUSES and McSame's negatives, then more power to her. Staying in (at least through the next two cycles), will help(you do not want your canidate losing to someone that has dropped out) IF she can refrain from attacking Obama

why she shouldn't listen to him as well? that's what I thought.

This is not true. He did not contact Hillary or the Clinton campaign expressing a desire for her to drop out.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/05/breaking-wesley-clark-reportedly-called.html

That's the plan. Don't freak out...

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just a guess. Where is she getting all that money anyway? Her money from what?

If those four asked for a meeting with Clinton and told her she should get out and if she didn't they would all publicly endorse Obama, then that might do it.

If they really believe that she should quit, then they should switch to Obama.

or Trashes The Nation, this "little girl's dream" WILL BE MADE TO COME TRUE! :crazy:

She'll do ANYTHING to cheat her way to the Nomination OR DESTROY Obama and the Democratic Party in the Process.

SCORCHED EARTH! <--- Rachel Maddow was spot-on in this analysis last night on MSNBC.

She is seriously in debt -- and not only to herself. She needs to try to raise money. You can't go to people and beg for money if you've dropped out of the race.

They might be saying that if she can stay in up to a certain point and damage Obama enough, they give her a huge lump sum of cash (which from their point of view will be worth it if they feel by doing so they can keep Obama out of office, either through Clinton winning the nomination, or McCain beating a more "damaged" Obama).

And they can have us all stay distracted with this mindless election for a few months more instead of being focused on many other issues they don't want discussed now.

everyone who could have talked her down from the ledge has already been thrown under the campaign bus.

I mean would you want to be the one to tell her? Sounds dangerous to me and Lieberman is definately someone we could do without!