I felt f$cked over when my candidate Kucinich dropped out

I felt fucked over when Edwards dropped out.

Neither time did I EVER consider voting for that maniac McCrazy. NEVER. Why? Cause I'm not fucking stupid. I don't have a death wish for other people's kids.

Not supporting the Democratic nominee this fall is literally imposing a death sentence on someone's kid...in Iraq, in Iran, a kid whose family can't afford quality health care...DEATH SENTENCE on innocent kids.

That's what this 'if my candidate doesn't get the nod, I won't vote' shit is. A death sentence on someone's child.

I ponied up and supported the candidate who had the momentum. Not my first or even second choice. But I ponied the fuck up.

This is life and death here people.


PONY THE FUCK UP OR GET OFF THIS BOARD.

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get back at them by destroying my chidren's future. That will show em.

I've never seen anything like it.

Loony Tunes

I was for Kucinich, too. He was the only candidate in the primaries I could, in good conscience, support. But I voted for Obama in the Texas primary, and I will vote for him in the GE, because he is clearly the lesser of two evils. He may be corporate, but he's not DLC; he may be corporate, but he's not a Republican.

Shame we have no real choice. Nader was right.

Eat your spinach. Pony up.

These pro-status-quo, oligarchy-supporting candidates are cake and ice cream - taste good, no nutritionaly content. People like Nader who have been consistently telling it like it is are hard to hear, even though their ideas would be much better for America.

--we might have a chance at getting some of them realized.

Nader is unable to do anything. All he is is talk.

Why is it that Nader cannot get elected at any level? School board? City council? County board? State representative? Dog catcher?

Why is it that Nader can only pass judgement about the system as he sits safely outside it too afraid to have world expanded by other people and their different ideas.

Dennis Kucinich, Paul Wellstone, Barbara Lee and many, many others have shown you don't have to be a sell out to participate in this system.

Nader is too afraid to open his mind. He is the ultimate libertarian theorist: if it seems good on paper, it must be right; there are no consequences beyond ones that don't challenge his predetermined world view.

Damn the facts, damn reality.

Nader is not brave for running for office with his so-called anti-establishment ideals.

You want brave? Garry Kasparov was brave for http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7110910.stm">running against Putin.

Now, that's brave. Nader is a chickenshit attention whore.

Nader hasn't done anything substantive in the last four years except write columns and make a couple of documentaries (neither of which rose to the level of import of Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth"). People who criticize Obama for "inexperience" or Clinton for her Iraq vote seem somewhat hypocritical in giving a true benchwarmer a free pass. I voted for Nader in 2000 but in political terms, that's an ice age of relative inactivity ago.

And have you actually followed what Nader's been doing? Just because he hasn't been saturated all over our media (and I wonder why they only have him on at election times, when they can cast him in the light of a "spoiler"...), doesn't mean he hasn't been doing anything. This man has been working and organizing for the past fifty years for Americans like you.

Pathetic.

Yes, actually I have followed him since, as I said before I have voted for him in past.

Ya, you did sound pathetic there, but that's OK.

As someone who made the same journey as the OP, I say that it's up to us to get all the newly active people that Obama has brought in up to speed on the Kucinich issues. If we don't do that and go back to talking just among ourselves, that would be our own fault.

If can't understand how it is he is able to get air time so easily every election year, then not only is he a tool, but he's delusional as well.

TV networks are corporations too.

And so are the ad buyers.

The difference between Republican and corporate Democrat is still a real choice, and so is the difference between corporate Democrat and DLC. It may not be the choice you want, but it is still a choice.

"This is your society, Judge Altgeld; you helped to build and create it, and it is this society that makes the criminal. A woman becomes a prostitute because it's a little better than dying of hunger. A man becomes a thief because your system turns him into an outlaw. He sees your ethics, which are the ethics of wild beasts, and yet you jail him because he uses those ethics. And if the workers unite to fight for food, for a better way of life, you jail them too. And the sop to your conscience is reform, always reform. No, so long as you preserve this system and its ethics, your jails will be full of men and women who choose life to death, and who take life as you force them to take it, through crime." Lucy Parsons from "The American" by Howard Fast

Dennis was my first choice as well.

Sigh...:thumbsup:

what else. It was/is pretty pathetic.

I love elves! Dennis rocks!

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But I'm voting for Barack Obama, if for nothing else than to see Pat Buchanan's head explode on Inauguration Day. :evilgrin:

I want to see Buchanan hauled off to the funny farm...this might do it.

I posted the same thing a while back, in different words. Not to mention the Supreme Court and a thousand other reasons to keep the criminals out of the White House.

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or maybe that's just me doing this....:banghead:

a bitter party of five just a few scrolls down. Misery loves company, I'm sure you'll be welcome with open arms.

No misery here.


I'm ready to get busy. Are you?

Congressman Kucinich and Senator Edwards are, I am proud to have had someone like you as a supporter. You are absolutely right on the mark!

This has all been about getting the enemies of our country OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE IN 257 DAYS!

Inquiring minds....

it's an impossibility.

I was a long-time Edwards supporter, and now support Obama. Took awhile for me to get there, but I will say this: I will NOT NOT NOT vote for McCain, or stay home, or write in anyone else's name.

This country is too fucking important to me to hand it over to yet another neocon asshole.

of our nation. personally responsible, and you better know this, people!

K & R

This whole campaign I have felt F'ed over. I supported Kucinich first, then Edwards, then Clinton, and now it looks like I will support Obama. I just hope that Obama can finally get what is sensible for this country enacted.

That means to me, first and foremost ending this unjust, illegal, immoral, horrendously expensive boondoggle called Iraq. The military needs to be downsized to a homeland defense structure with no presence in Germany, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan, S. Korea, Japan and any of the other countries we currently keep troops in. This all wastes billions of dollars that could be used stateside for the common good of American citizens. We need more people in the Peace Corps, instead of the murderous Marine Corps.

We need socialized medicine in this country in the worst way. People are not allowed to live peacefully and freely with the fear of expensive medical procedures always lurking over their heads.

The unfair tax structure that favors the rich must be stopped! There is no middle class left in this country from where I sit.

Big oil companies need to be taxed on their windfall profits. It is obscene the amount of money that they are raking in, and fleecing from the people. We need to invest in R&D for alternative forms of non-nuclear energy to ween us from our oil addiction.

We need some sensible laws in regards to guns in America, there are simply too many murders and acts of violence being committed with ease, as a result of guns available to anyone who wants one. I would even go as far as to say ban them, but I don't see how that could realistically be done.

Education reform needs to be enacted, with money available for people to go to college or trade schools if they choose to go.

I could go on and on, but I won't. I am just too depressed and will be until George Bush is out of office, Obama is in and with a Democratic controlled Congress we can really start to see positive change in the nation and in the world.

I'll stop this car right now!!! Don't make me come back there!!!

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