What if it's all just one big lie?

office unannounced. Who gets in for a one hour closed door meeting? Who gets their ass kicked out of the waiting room?

Seems Jefferson's warning was used as an instruction manual.

I'm not sure even all of our representatives understand how deep it runs.

I first learned of it when I read about the captains of industry (competitors) who came together to form and implement the Federal Reserve so they could control the country to ensure their continued success and profits.

in the OP, it should be easy to find parts 2 and 3. Stunning, isn't it?

First, I am an Obama supporter. However, I think that it was a complete disgrace how the Republican Party and Fox News (especially in the debates) treated Ron Paul. They undermined his candidacy from the get go because he was against the Iraq War. They didn't even try to hide their disdain for him during the Fox News debate. And now Ron Paul supporters have refused to fall in line with McCain's fake conservative values. I think it's obvious that the party system in our country is corrupt, on both sides.

will settle in to watch in all its entirety later on today.

Thanks so much for posting it!

The book I read was The Creature of Jekyl Island. If you're interested in reading it, here's the link to amazon (although it's not as though you need to be convinced -- you already 'get it')

http://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/0912986395/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210336953&sr=8-1

What is ultimately so frustrating is that it never HAS been BY the people, has it? We've been manipulated all along.

:grouphug:

It has always been this way, since long before the United States ever existed. The first step to changing it is to recognize it for what it is.

But the last time I viewed this sort of anti-Federal Reserve rant, I found much of it to be bogus. There was a lot of all too familiar thinly-disguised "right-libertarian" propaganda in it, and a few fabricated quotes of famous personages. This was just the sort of stuff that fueled the anti-Semitic and pro-Nazi movements in the thirties --- Father Coughlin, G. L. K. Smith, and the Silver Shirts.

I've been up all night and ready to pack it in. Later today, I'll check it out in entirety. But I suggest all here who watch the entire series, to refrain from accepting it uncritically. Stop at frequent intervals and research. Remember: Google is your friend.

pnorman

She's part of the damn ruling oligarchy!


Sheesh....

it's systemic.

I happen to agree with you about Hillary but she's a small player.

So I have to ask you, after watching that, do you think Obama really could do much to change it?

but I still think it's so ingrained into who/what this country really is, it's gonna be tough.

Seriously.

Don't give us "it's worth a shot" - tell us.

He can't do anything because a) he doesn't WANT to and b) his party won't let him.

Corporate Red, Corporate Blue - save for the superficial it's one big happy money tent.

He knows what the payoff is if he plays by the rules - I'm waiting for Billy C. to get invited in to Carlisle.

It's coming - he was a good boy, took the "abuse", waited his turn.

Now tell us all the things Obama has said to make you believe that when his turn comes at the money wheel he'll say "no thanks."

This ain't Jimmy Carter's Democratic Party anymore.

So give it what you've got.

...all in service to America's only true god, capitalism. It predates even Andy Jackson's time in government, being a holdover from England's feudalism, so even FDR is not giving us the whole picture.

Every year, the US Govt. pays the central/foreign banks $250-300 billion a year in interest payments.

If that's not owning the government, I don't know what is.

The truth is too overwhelming for us to comprehend. I firmly believe that.

Another $500B down the shitter.

Hopefully that will reach a lot of people and help us all begin to wake up. Don't know quite what we'll do then, but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daFGJkKFevI

Thanks for that.

Oddly enough, I watched The Thin Red Line this morning, also with Cusack.

It is one of the reasons I am no longer beholden to major party candidates.

They won't change anything.

They CAN"T - they're respective parties won't allow it.

And quite honestly, they don't want to.

It saddens me to see all this false hope for change based mostly on smiling faces and wonderful oratory.

The under the radar stuff is what matters - you need to look deep in there and not jump like Christmas morning children when somebody give you a sound bite you like.

It's not going to change folks - it really isn't.

Not unless drastic steps are taken, and folks are willing to fall backwards in order to move forward. It don't mean shit if you watch the clip and then vote to continue what you find objectionable.

Remember, only now are you finding out what the Clinton's are truly like. It was like that before as well, only the mastermind could dazzle you with smiles and cute phrases.

NAFTA, don't ask don't tell, welfare "reform" - who do you think THAT benefited? You? Me?

Hardly.

It was paying the bill when it came due, and the same debt collectors are lurking over all the mainstream candidates.

It's your own fault if you borrow money from them.

to conspiratorial rambling.

does the koolaid cause tunnelvision?