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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:13 PM
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The difference between a Hill supporter who won't support Obama and vice versa...
I have seen people on both sides saying they wouldn't support the other candidate in the general election, and I can't lie -- I have been one of those people. It would be next to impossible for me to support Hillary Clinton if she were somehow able to get onto the Democratic ticket, and here is why:

Because if she managed to hamstring the clear winner of the Democratic primary, subverting PD count and popular vote, after spending months attempting to defile her opponent's otherwise honest, hard-fought campaign, voting for her would be akin to throwing my support behind not only those tactics but a party that had sold out the majority of its constituency that has been clamoring for change, and has instead taken to rewarding unfair politics. I would feel completely left without a party, and would no longer trust their agenda. After seeing months of dirty politics in action, how in the WORLD would I be able to trust that the party that had played that low and dirty with the American people wouldn't do the same with legislating or upholding the ideals that made me a Democrat in the first place? It wouldn't be a mere tantrum. My disillusionment would be such that I wouldn't even be able to associate with the party I once held dear. A mere "D" next to a politicians name does not a true Democrat make. You can take a pig and put it in a fancy dress, but it'll never be the prom queen, and I'd have a VERY hard time, at least at the national level, voting for a party whose very name has become an oxymoron.

By contrast, a Hillary supporter who refuses to vote for Obama, the most clear-cut winner of an admittedly VERY close and contentious race, the one who has garnered the most delegates (both super and pledged), and who has gotten the most popular votes, appears to me someone who is merely suffering from sour grapes because his/her preferred candidate didn't win. They are, in essence, angry that enough rules couldn't have been changed and/or bent in order to accommodate the loser, and their decision to either not vote or vote third party or Republican (while still their choice as free Americans) would be more an issue of sore loser syndrome, not an action taken in the aftermath of complete party upheaval.

So I see a stark difference between the two scenarios here. I want more than anything to vote for the Democratic nominee, but that nominee had better be put there fair and square, according to the rules that were in place BEFORE the election began, otherwise I want no part of it. I want no part of a party that insists on a principle that the key to winning a race is to make yourself nearly indistinguishable from your opponent by playing dirty. Otherwise, what's the point of having a two party race? They would be one in the same to me.

And if you want to cry "What about the war?? What about the Supreme Court appointments? What about this?" You need to stop, because when someone feels their party has been hijacked by an entity that they can no longer reconcile with their values, it's VERY hard to expect everyone to fall in line like good little sheep. And I think it's dangerous to think, at this stage of the game when it seems like everyone is in the pockets of big business and special interests, that any Democrat is best. I'm not going to let myself become THAT complacent. I know what my values are. I know what issues are nearest and dearest to me. And every election year, I've voted Democrat because I've always felt that it was the party that came closest to representing me.

I only hope this can remain the case, because if the DNC manages to fuck this up, I'll be without a party...
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:17 PM
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1. Exactement!
Well said.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:21 PM
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2. Amazing. Obama supporters who dont support Clinton are principled.
While Clinton supporters who dont support Obama are crybabies.

Thats a great way to encourage togetherness for November.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:43 PM
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4. Any Obama supporter who wouldn't vote for Clinton would likewise by a crybaby
I think the majority of Obama supporters would vote for Hillary .... certainly I would. I would also work myself half to
death to get her into office.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:41 PM
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3. Anyone who does not vote for Democrats is helping the GOP
We have no choice now -- the other party is so extreme and dangerous, we have only the choice (as mainly sane people) of sticking together or the other side WILL win.

If Hillary was nominated, I would not only vote for her, I'd work my ass off for her just as I did Bill (I didn't support him in the primary either). The worst Democrat is far better than the best modern-day Republican.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:48 PM
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5. Those differences don't really matter -- what matters is defeating McCain.
As I have repeatedly said, I can hold my nose as well as the next Dem and vote for Hillary, should it somehow come to that.

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