McAuliffe: Joint Ticket Would Be a "Great Idea"

While everyone is wondering why Hillary will NOT drop out, Hillary is positioning herself to FORCE Obama to choose her for VP. :crazy:

She's trying to make the case that she can carry the voters (women, whites, Hispanic, working class etc.) as well as the states (Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Kentucky, etc.) that Obama cannot carry. She wants SOMETHING out of all of this. Bad idea.

(The above McAuliffe quote is from Talking Points Memo - can't get the link) Yesterday, on Larry King, McAuliffe talked about Hillary's HUGE COALITION that is her base, Lanny Davis mentioned that she has a base of (I think it was) 16 million.

To paraphrase Margaret Carlson...the Clintons were prepared to "win ugly", maybe they are ready to "lose ugly" as well.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/05/mcauliffe_joint_ticket_would_b.php

then that is as good as Hillary saying it herself.

I still doubt that Obama will take her. There are too many other candidates that are a better match for him than Hillary.

That guy needs to get off of Fantasy Island with or without Mr. Roarke's help!

......the time when Obama couldn't win without Hillary on the ticket has passed. She may have that broad coalition she is yipping about - but she is not the only one who can bring him that.....

...I think that she would be a negative and hurt Obama's chances of winning the GE.

No news here....

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/05/mcauliffe_joint_ticket_would_b.php

And Terry's quote is followed by this from Greg Sargent:

Prediction: The public enthusiasm among top Hillary supporters for an Obama-Hillary ticket will rise roughly in proportion with their growing recognition that Obama is the party's presumptive nominee.

:boring:
rocknation

"Dont call us we'll call you" Ring a bell?

Obama supporters want CHANGE. The Clintons do not represent change.

but how would that work in attracting Republicans, who historically don't like Hillary?

We have to heal our party, yes, but more than that at this moment, we have to win the White House!

"Win ugly" or "Lose ugly". They seem to be fine with either strategy.

If not, fine -- let her stay in to the convention.

And I agree with you on their strategy. :grr:

Her overall negatives are still high and she never gets above 48% approval. Really doesn't make her a genuinely attractive running mate. Further, the location, location, location aspect of choosing a veep is not in her favor either, he won't need her to get NY.

We don't have to buy into their absurd ideas and anger-baiting because they cannot harm us.

If we buy into their anger-baiting, we are feeding the hate that drives their campaign.

Hillary and certainly not McAuliff cannot force Obama to take Hillary as a VP. It is highly unlikely that Obama would choose Hillary on his own.

A suggestion: Follow Obama's advice. He knows they are no threat now, and so doesn't breathe life into their campaign by reacting to their anger-bait. He is focused on the future and winning the election, and that's what we need to do: keep our eyes forward, look to the future, and don't allow Hillary and her people to drag us back to the vicious, divisive past they have created.

When Hillary et al. offer up these seductive little anger-baiting tidbits, if we want we can acknowledge it, see it for what it is (an attempt to bait us into breathing life into their campaign), and move on, their campaign will suffocate on its own. Perhaps a comment like "There they go again. They're dangling that shiny anger-baiting object, but I won't bite."

During the primary when they were a threat, defense-by-offense was an appropriate and effective tool. But just like any tool, the job has changed, and continuing to rise to their anger-baiting when another tool (working to the future and having the patience it will take to unit the party for November) is now appropriate.

To continue to rise to their anger-baiting would be like using a shovel to dig a hole in the past, but now it's time to rake the leaves, and using a shovel would be an ineffective tool that would probably harm the underlying turf or plantings.

If we don't react to Hillary et al, like Obama is not reacting, they will continue to spiral out of control. They are looking for a reaction because as long as we are reacting, they can tell the media that Hillary is still a viable candidate, and this does nothing but breathe life into their campaign.

But if we let the Clintons and their campaign spiral out of control on their own, I think it will help heal the breach between the Hillary supporters and the Obama supporters. I think it will help nudge Hillary supporters over to perhaps reconsidering Obama. And, if Hillary et al. get out there enough, it may make Hillary supporters, on their own, think, "Hmmm. Perhaps Hillary isn't the right candidate for the Oval Office after all."

So this is my new mantra: PATIENCE, PATIENCE, PATIENCE.

of the outcome of Hillary as VP.

appointing Benedict Arnold as his VP
to get the British vote.

She has burned way too many bridges.

:nuke:

I can't really think of a bigger insult to the nominee of your own party than that.

We are getting there...

I support Barack Obama.

I for one, believe that an Obama/Clinton ticket would be the best thing for the Democratic Party and this country.

Year 2008: 1st African American President, 1st Female Vice President. It implies unity..... black, white, male, female, etc.
Obama has already captured the "new school". These are our future leaders. Hillary has the "old school". These are our pillars.

The Republicans are going to do everything they can to tear Obama down. Remember the 1,200 and 1,000 page summaries they have on these 2. Hillary supporters who would be leaning towards Obama might flee, but with her on the ticket, they won't. Obama suporters who would flee might stay becasue of the strength of the ticket. McCain doesn't have alot of strong die-hard supporters. Both Obama and Clinton have extremely dedicated supporters. If they combine on a ticket, they would have a ready-builty powerhouse.
It would decrease the strength of the "race" weapon that the Republicans plan to use. "We ain't seen nothin yet". With a combined ticket, it might sting, but it won't kill us.

I am not sure how many people realize that the Democratic Party has to change the face of this nation.
It's the best way to end the bitterness and the battle and heal this country. Healing that has been needed for a very long time.
The question is: can Obama and Clinton, the Democratic Powers that be, and "we, the people" live up to the challenge?

forgiveness is the key.