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thesquanderer Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 10:44 AM
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"Big state" redux, CA prefers Obama... though it was a hypocritical Clinton argument anyway
If anyone actually thought Hillary's "I won the big states" argument was relevant, a poll shows that, if the primary were to be held now, Obama would win California, 49% to 43% (with a 4 point margin of error).

http://cbs5.com/politics/poll.clinton.obama.2.720136.html

Though how much of that is a genuine decision by a decent number of former Clinton voters that they like Obama better based on what they've seen of the candidates subsequent to Feb 5, vs. the phenomenon that some people seem to just be drawn to voting for who they perceive as the likely victor, would be an open question.

Of course, as many have pointed out, no one seriously thinks NY or CA will go for McCain over either of Democratic candidate, which is why Hillary's "I carried the big states" argument--implying that Obama would more likely lose there in November--was silly.

Though what I haven't seen mentioned is--as if we need another example of it--the Clinton campaign's hypocrisy in the argument. Because they also have said that some of Obama's victories in smaller states are irrelevant, because the Democrats have no chance of carrying those states in November anyway.

When it comes to electability, if Obama's wins in solidly red states are meaningless, than Clinton's wins in solidly blue states are equally meaningless. Irrespective of whether the states are big or small.


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Youphemism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 11:08 AM
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1. Even on the day of the vote

One of the very underreported facts about super duper Tuesday is the number of Californians who voted early -- over 40%.

A lot of Californians voted before the Iowa primary, when Clinton was inevitable and Obama had no chance... And while Edwards was still in it.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 11:12 AM
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2. CA would go blue no matter what. It's the swing states that are important
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progdog Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 12:08 PM
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3. California's primary until now was always
in the beginning of June. Had it not been moved there is no doubt Obama would have carried my state.
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