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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 12:15 PM
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Mark Penn
n/t
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 12:16 PM
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1. The number one reason Hillary Clinton lost the nomination
It was hers. She had every advantage. She had the name recognition. She had the media narrative. She had the big money donors.

Then she blew it all by hiring that moron.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 12:17 PM
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2. No, he's the number TWO reason. SHE'S the number ONE reason she lost.
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 12:18 PM
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3. yep.
the buck stops with hillary.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 12:19 PM
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5. I do have to admit
It was Hillary who chose to hire the buffoon.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 12:18 PM
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4. If she had somebody as smart as Axelrod
Obama would have never come close.

The number two reason she lost was Patti Solis-Doyle.
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 12:23 PM
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8. Yep.
Look at how this hack said she would run the race....and hillary agreed with her.

Clinton's campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle, seems to agree with that assessment, having effectively vowed to run her operation much as Rove did his two successful national campaigns. "She expresses admiration for the way George W. Bush's campaign team controlled its message, and, given her druthers, would run this race no differently,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/14/AR2007081401722.html

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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 12:20 PM
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6. Her Choice to hire him .......was the number one reason she lost
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 12:22 PM
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7. The fact that he confused the Democratic Primary process with the Republican
process makes me wonder, and the fact that Hillary chose him speaks volumes.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 12:48 PM
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9. I disagree. The #1 reason Hillary lost is...Barack Obama.
Edited on Sun May-11-08 12:52 PM by hisownpetard
He's just an outstanding candidate, and the country is hungry for someone who is not trained in
the politics of deceit and destruction.

He's come along at a crucial time. Hilary has resorted to type, and the difference is clear.

We need someone who'll talk to us, inform us and engage our citizens in an intelligent discussion about the future of America,
not someone who assumes we are all too dumb to figure out that we're being played like pawns.

It's the dawning of a new day, and not a minute too soon.


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ecdab Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 12:49 PM
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10. LOL n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 03:01 PM
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11. Penn was no help for the Clinton effort.
Who knows what she saw in him in the first place?


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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 03:05 PM
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12. Will go down as the Dick Morris of his generation. n/t
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 03:17 PM
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13. Except this time...
He was the prostitute
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aaaaaa5a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 03:22 PM
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14. It Hurts Me To The Core....

that Mark Penn actually makes more money than I do for such incompetence!
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