We have to find a way to nuke this unity ticket shit!

It's total BS. I hope Obama is just being nice by entertaining the idea.

I wouldn't worry about it.. it won't happen, even if Obama has to look like he's considering it.

Not necessarily for the usual reasons given, but Hillary does bring some qualities to the table. I think some real consideration should be given to the idea, and always have her as a 4th or 5th choice.

doubles the negatives.

It's just not going to happen, the party bosses know Clinton is a down-ticket disaster and that she brings nothing to the ticket itself.

If her idea of foreign policy is obliterating everyone you have a problem with in the world, then she is not someone who should have Obama's ear.

P.S. Snark: I think if she somehow weasels out the VP spot she'd be dubbed a political cockroach.

Michelle Obama's going to nuke that idea. So will David Axelrod and Dick Durbin and anyone else who is close to Obama.

Hillary will not be on this ticket.

foward towards the future.

He likes to nuke shit.

HIllary can't explain that sufficiently among many americans IMO without either sounding like she was lying at the time, or lying after she's picked to be VP, or if she uses some reason that's perceived as either disingenuous or flat out zany as to why he's suddenly crossed the threshold over the course of 4/5 months(or using circularity). It'll be bad enough trying to explain that away, but if she's the VP it's going to look even worse to have someone that close to your government, an ally that once said you weren't qualified for a critical criterion of the presidency and can't reasonably explain why you ARE qualified now(maybe she can do it, but with her untrustworthy numbers I wonder whether people would believe it.)

-Also I don't think we can know a priori whether she'll attract more of the base then she may help bring out(from the repub side) AGAINST obama (in addition to any that already want to come out to support McCain) we'll need to see more polling after the race is over and things simmer a bit perhaps

-It may very well turn off independents and some obama supporters (due to them seeing it as a indicator that he doesn't want an ally in his fight for change that shares his same over all message, but this could be spun a different way I concede)


-Turning off independents is bad because McCain has been polled to be fighting for that same group and has seemed to poll well among them. He's going to need this with his lack of base support.

-While with obama,assuming he wins the popular vote, (and no MI doesn't provide us with sufficient data to measure comapritive support regardless of the reason for it, and even if the delegates are seated to placate the state) I think he has stronger base support relative to McCain because the tensions here seemed to be more attributed to differences in personallity and word choices than in decisive policy disagreements (which many repubs have with McCain vis a vis the environment/immigration reform etc. for years) And I personally have enough faith in democratic voters to see thorugh the occasional gaffes and personality issues to vote for the candidate who's presenting issues that are closer to their economic and/or social values relative to McCain.

- it could more than double the oppo research, according to politico (obama having +1000 pages, while and hillary having +1200)

reason imo why she should not receive a spot on the ticket and there are plenty of other reasons.Imo she bleeds Obama of Independents and republicans. This is a bad idea. It sends the wrong message to all of the people that have bought into his message of hope and change.

He's a good friend of their's without the insider baggage. Plus he knows what war really is, for a change.

If she was such a fighter for change why didn't she so it in the Senate. Time and time again she voted the wrong way.

If you've listened to her racist comments the past few days you know she's gone for the scorched earth policy. How on earth is she attractive to any other politician with what she has done?

The real issue is whether she's going to take it on the road with a run as an independent, or if she is just rallying her troops for 2012. You can say alot about Hillary, but she's not stupid. Personally I'd like to know what she's up to.

pick Hillary as his VP. That'd be like JFK picking LBJ, a death sentence in waiting.