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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:08 PM
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Rahm Emmanuel Calls Kennedy Comments About Clinton "Out of Line"
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/emanuel-to-kennedy-thats-not-nice/">Huffington Post

Mr. Emanuel called to assail Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, for remarks he made when asked about the possibility of Senator Barack Obama of Illinois choosing Mrs. Clinton, of New York, as his running-mate.

“I have a lot of respect for Ted Kennedy, but I don’t know how the hell he comes off saying that,” said Mr. Emanuel, who has ties to Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama and has not endorsed in the race. “The gratuitous attack on her is uncalled for and wrong. He is a better senator than that comment reveals.”

Mr. Emanuel was responding to an interview with Mr. Kennedy on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital With Al Hunt.” In the interview, Mr. Kennedy said he did not think it was possible that Mr. Obama, whom Mr. Kennedy has endorsed, would pick Mrs. Clinton for his ticket should he clinch the nomination.


Let the VP Wars BEGIN!! Isn't Rahm Emmanuel DLC? Keep watching as they all get ready to push for a "Unity" ticket with Clinton as Veep. I personally think it's a disaster waiting to happen.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:09 PM
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1. Yes Rahm is DLC...
his commentary on Dean's strategy... well... I wouldn't trust his judgment.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:09 PM
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2. Yeah, he's a DLCer, so his objectivity is already suspect. nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:10 PM
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3. I Call Rahm Emmanuel's BS, BS
Edited on Mon May-12-08 12:10 PM by fascisthunter
and it's time for him to move to the GOP.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:12 PM
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4. He was!
And should be called OUT!
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:13 PM
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5. Kennedy's a jerk, but he did not attack Clinton. Here's the quote
HUNT: What's your view of an Obama-Clinton ticket?
KENNEDY: I don't think it's possible.
HUNT: You don't? And what type of vice president choice do you think he should make? What type of person?
KENNEDY: Well, the first is always a demand that you're going to have someone that's going to be able to assume the responsibility. I would hope that he would also give consideration to somebody that has –- is in tune with his appeal for the nobler aspirations of the American people. And I think if we had real leadership –- as we do with Barack Obama –- in the number-two spot as well, it'd be enormously helpful.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:16 PM
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7. Uh........that's fairly insulting.
In one sentence, he's managed to say that Hillary can't assume the leadership, that she doesn't share his nobler aspirations, and that she doesn't have real leadership.

Even if you agree with these incendiary comments (I don't happen to), you can hardly argue that they aren't snide, dismissive, and extremely disparaging of Hillary Clinton's abilities.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:23 PM
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12. I read Kennedy's comments as two sentences. Actually, the two sentences were separate answers to
two different questions.
Unrelated.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:51 PM
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17. That's how I read it...
The second answer is a general, "what sort of qualities" question, not a "why not Hillary" question.

Of course, if someone is a Hillary supporter looking to be offended, feel free to read what they want into it. If they want to be offended because a candidate or their surrogate may make the suggestion (real or imagined) that their candidate is not qualified, that's fine. I'll just be happy to get someone who can handle a 3am phone call.

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:36 PM
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14. That's only if you assume that he said it's "not possible"
due to her not fitting the ideal VP candidate Kennedy describes in his next answer. He may have said it's not possible for other reasons, for instance, maybe Obama and Clinton do not get along.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:51 PM
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16. No Worse Than What Clinton
herself said over the months about Obama.

As a matter of fact, this seems tame to the snarky/divisive remarks she has said about Obama and the people who support him.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:16 PM
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8. Self-delete - dupe
Edited on Mon May-12-08 12:44 PM by LisaM
Inadvertent dupe.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:15 PM
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6. How Does "he did not think it was possible..."
equate to a gratuitous attack?

Good grief, you can't say shit about about shit with out it being "an attack" on one candidate or the other.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:18 PM
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9. that's not the part Rahm objected to
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:20 PM
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10. based on poast 5 it looks like an attack. Fine with me, she will
find that her reception in the senate is going to be less than warm.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:21 PM
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11. she might be majority leader
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:02 PM
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19. the majority of the senate endorsed Obama. And those senators have been
verbally assaulted by the Clinton's. If that's the recipe for majority leader then you are correct.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:32 PM
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13. They are out of line.
And an insult to half the Dem party. The half that voted for Ms. Clinton.

I could say alot of ugly things about the Kennedy clan right now. But I won't. Because I don't approve of attacks on other Democrats.
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:38 PM
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15. I like Rahm Emanuel. There is nothing gratuitous about the tone and the underlying import.
Edited on Mon May-12-08 12:39 PM by genna
1. given, done, bestowed, or obtained without charge or payment; free; voluntary.
2. being without apparent reason, cause, or justification: a gratuitous insult.
3. Law. given without receiving any return value.


Ted Kennedy is saying her method of campaigning was less than honorable.

He is telling Obama I've got your back.

He is telling the Clintons that you both have gone too far on this presidential process and there are repercussions that extend beyond that process.


I'd refer to the SNL skit. I'd also one up the comment about the veep stakes, governor of New York and the Majority Leader of the Senate.

Don't you need to be able to get more than hard working people, I mean white people, to govern a state (isn't NYC more of a melting pot than West Virginia), govern the country, or run Senators (who have dueling constituencies). I'd reference a Clinton supporter, Charlie Rangel's words, 'It was the dumbest thing she could have said.' She didn't apologize for the remark or the inference.

There are men and nonwhite people in this country whom would like to be acknowledged and represented in the upper echelons of power in Washington.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:57 PM
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18. Much as I hate agreeing with Rahm Emmanuel...
There's a reason why inadvertantly telling the truth is called a gaffe. Kennedy's comments were blunt, but accurate. However it was an impolitic accuracy that he shared with the public. The one thing a politician can not afford to do, as the job title implies, is be impolitic.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:03 PM
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20. They're all DLC
Until we can get some real campaign finance reform, all our candidates will be funded by corporate and lobbyists money.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:25 PM
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21. Ted
Well, Ted Kennedy was never really known for his Chivalry.. . .
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:27 PM
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22. Rahm couldn't lick Uncle Ted's boots if he tried
Teddy was spot on. Rahm needs to settle down.


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