Obama pulls ahead of Clinton 50% to 43% in today's Gallup poll.

Read'em and weep my friends!



And against McCain


http://www.gallup.com/poll/107218/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Pulls-Ahead-Clinton-50-43.aspx

Didn't think it'd be such a good idea then but I'm changing my mind on that one, still holding out hope for an Obama/Webb ticket.

In many circles, Webb is a popular choice to be on the list of those to pick. But he's too conservative, too off-the-cuff, and has been in the Senate even less than Obama. Democrats love the idea of picking off people just as they finally get to the big-time. It's like picking fruit before it reaches its true ripeness. We don't need green bananas for vice president.

The reason I like him is despite his short time in the senate he would bolster Obama's credibility on Military matters, which quite frankly is the only thing McCain is running on, despite the fact he should have no credibility on issues such as the VA and torture. You are right however we need to keep strong people up and coming in the party in the senate. Sebelius I like because she's Governor of a red state where she has the support of "values" voters and her work as state insurance commissioner bolsters Obama on changing how money influences Washington.

THere are many fine politicians who were willing to take the risk of the Clinton vindictiveness and wrath when they endorsed OBama. That shows me that these Obama supportrs are in tune with Obama's approach to changing politics in D.C. and will b loyal to him.

Obama will need someone who can really grasp the new approach he is taking to politics in D.C. Someone who supported Hillary CLEARLY isn't clear on the concept, and would most likely undermine Obama's efforts--either intentionally or at the directions of the Clintons.

Clark has shown himself pretty willing to take marching orders from the Clintons. That makes him too big of a risk as Obama's VP.

lol ^_^

pluses as Webb, as well as several more, and Webb is still too conservative on most things other than the war, whereas Clark is genuinely progressive across the board.

Obama/Petula Clark.

The problem I see with Webb isn't as much his conservatism, but he is a genuine independent, a loner. He has to go his own way. And he has to speak for himself always. I'm not sure how cooperatively he would work as VP. Clark, on the other hand, is very like Obama in his approach to getting stuff done through persuasion. I think they would be a good team as two pragmatic idealists. And even if it ever happened that Wes was not on the same page as Barack on an issue, nobody would ever know about it from Wes. Barack is going to need that kind of loyalty in a VP. Not saying Webb would be disloyal, far from it, but I think he is not temperamentally suited to VP.

excellent VP candidate on the Obama ticket. Here is my reasoning, in case you are interested (or would like to use some of it to promote the idea):

OK—I am biased, since Wes Clark would have been my first choice for POTUS if he had run this time, but I think he would be the perfect VP choice.

First off, I think we need a Southern white guy with a strong military record to counter the McCain advantage. And as another poster said above, we probably shouldn’t go for both a woman and a Black man this time around, since that really might freak a lot of white male voters.

Clark would appease the Hillary voters, since he has been a staunch supporter of hers all along, but he wouldn’t offend the Obama voters, because he has never gotten down in the dirt or attacked Obama as other Hillary campaign operatives have. Also, he has been absolutely selfless about campaigning and fundraising for all sorts of Democrats since 2004, so there are a lot of favors to call in.

He is a brilliant Rhodes Scholar, and also from Arkansas, which carries the cachet of Bill Clinton for those who were hoping this would be Bill’s third term.

He is a handsome son of a gun, which does count with a lot of people.

He has been a FOX News analyst, so he is known and admired by a lot of the voters we might otherwise never attract, and yet he has always smacked the FOX Fools down whenever they tried to pull any of their BS in his presence.

He speaks well in public. Two great public speakers on the ticket would highlight McCain’s clumsiness and gaffes.

Notice that he brings all the same advantages Webb would bring, but none of the disadvantages, since he isn’t DINO, but rather a genuine progressive. Also, he has served under both Republican and Democratic administrations, and he has the ear and the trust of much of the military brass, who spoke to him when they wanted to make stuff public that they did not dare to say themselves in public.

He has even been a Republican in the past, but has left that behind. But he still has connections to that side of the aisle and can work with them, as well as fans among Republican voters.

His heroism in trying single-handedly to save, at great risk to himself, those men who were killed in Bosnia when their Hummer went over a cliff would be a nice counterbalance to McCain’s MSM-pumped up war hero persona.

Also, his military experience includes command positions--i.e., executive roles--whereas much could be made of the fact that McCain has never had any executive experience.

Clark for VP!

**BTW, Edwards (who was my second choice, after Clark, for POTUS this time) probably would not take the VP slot again, and I want him to be named Attorney General, to clean up that snakepit over at the DOJ and to do some real investigating of the Bush administration's crimes.

One correction. Clark was never a Republican. He was an independent until he registered for the first time with a political party as a Democrat. He voted Republican a couple of times in the past, but has voted straight Democratic for 16 years now.

in putting a potential spy and saboteur in the VP slot.

Obama has lots of very qualified politicians who endorsed him. Why settle for a Hillary toadie?

is a brilliant, independent thinker. He is also honorable and honest. Obama could safely turn his back on Clark, because Clark would never stab him in the back.

Just because someone supports Hillary in this election, that does not make him a "groupie" or a "toadie." Many fine, decent, and knowledgeable people have supported her. Don't forget, Richardson originally supported her, too. Being a Hillary supporter is not the mark of Cain, you know.

Thanks, fellow bitter atheist for Obama! :hi:

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and you saved me a thread! :D

and it will happen again. Just watch.

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I think Obama will be bumped up even more when Hillary drops out and he is officially the nominee.

Obama IS the nominee at this point whether Hucka..i mean Hillary realizes it or not.

I think Obama will be bumped up even more when Hillary drops out and he is officially the nominee.

the Clinton v. McCain match-up. So I went and looked - now I know why you didn't include it. Clinton does better against McCain than Obama.

...since she won't be running against McCain in the fall.

how Clinton does against McCain is about as relevant as how Santa Claus performs v. McCain

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that will be gone tomorrow and you know it.

No, I can't read the future.

no ability to look past today?

How can any of us "know" that her lead will dissipate by tomorrow? You can guess. You can speculate. But how can we KNOW it?

And admitting that one isn't clairvoyant isn't admitting that one is sort-sighted. That's just a silly argument on your part - just a lame attempt to insult me.

Do you really think I meant it was a fact that you knew it or that you were well aware that what I said is more than likely to be correct?

You tell me then Ill get back to you on the insult portion.

No one should care that she polls a whopping 1% better than Obama. It is as useless as polling FDR against McCain.

but it's possible. And her doing better against McCain than Obama is the crux of the argument she's making to the superdelegates.

What does that leave us with at this point? is it down to just popular vote now?

A) The states I've won (am going to win) are all connected to each other!
B) The states I've won give North America a (slightly crooked) happy face!

She's got that on her side look:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Maps/May11.html

I can get behind that one! On to the convention! Smiley faces for a happier America!

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Hillary's anger-baiting unopposed makes her spiral more out of control, desperately seeking a response from Obama to validate her campaign and breathe life into it.

Obama's strategy of igoring her and NOT getting mired in Hillarys anger quagmire, moving forward with the voter registration drive, is working well. THings are starting to cool down, which will help us win over the Hillary voters so the Dems can win in November.