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JKaiser (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:38 AM Original message |
Do you think Obama can win the GE without Florida or Michigan.. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. Hillary was against having those delegates counted too. |
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JKaiser (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Forget hillary.. Hillary is over.. Where talking about Obama and McCain.. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. That's not the question, is it? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
2. Go do a google search. He wasn't against anything, he didn't make |
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flor de jasmim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
3. Been there, done that, but YES |
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JKaiser (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. He followed the rules because they were in his favor.. That's the reality.. |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. On what do you base that accusation? |
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BklynChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
4. Obama wasn't and isn't against having those delegates seated. He was trying to work out a deal that |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
5. Most don't even know and the rest don't care. |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
7. Hillary was against it before she was for it |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
8. I think Obama will win Michigan |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
9. Can Hillary win with 10% of the black vote? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. What's that got to do with the topic? |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Because we're basing potential votes on polls. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #28 |
42. yes, in the primaries |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Some Hillary supporters use primary results as a barometer for the GE. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I think you're oversimplifying |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. They won't vote for him, but they may stay home if Hillary was the nominee. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. That's true |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. To be fair, I don't think the Clintons are themselves racists. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. and to be fair |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Hillary's pushed it more than anyone. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. That was a discussion |
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JKaiser (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. It's not Hillary's fault black people are discriminating against her because she is white.. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Bwhahaha! You have GOT to be kidding me. |
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JKaiser (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
32. So your saying Obama is winning 90% of African Americans just because he has the best platform? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #32 |
52. You just made the absurd claim blacks aren't voting for clinton |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
26. She had most AAs on her side at the beginning. |
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JKaiser (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Okay Fine.. Obama has 90% of AA just because of his awesome record.. It has nothing to do with his |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. AA voters aren't voting against Hillary because she's white. |
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JKaiser (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. So AAs are voting for him because he is black.. Well that is dumb |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Yes, that explains Presidents Sharpton and Jackson. |
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NatBurner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #38 |
50. and alan keyes |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #14 |
30. You realize that she started out with a majority of black support. |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
11. Michigan Will Be Fine |
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JKaiser (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. I just hope it doesn't end like 2000 for Obama. What battleground states will be in play in GE? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. VA, CO, NM and NC are all in play according to current polling. |
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JKaiser (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #23 |
36. I agree with you about NC.. New Mexico I question as well.. Why do you think Obama can win NM? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #36 |
48. NM is trending blue. Tom Udall will win big there in November |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Hillary Couldn't Win Florida Either |
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JKaiser (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #24 |
39. With all the hispanics and retired people she could.. But this isn't about hillary it is about Obama |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. You Need To Face Reality |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Agreed. |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
15. he can't |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
16. Obama is not opposed to seating the delegates. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
19. He is not against couting the delegates in those states. And it's just |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
20. He will need one of them. I say forget Florida and concentrate on Michigan. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
22. Of COURSE he can.. His campaign is about BROADENING the democratic base |
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newmajority (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
27. If Michigan votes for John McLoon after 28 years of BushClinton economic devastation |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
29. no |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
31. Why do people keep suggesting that it's somehow Obama's fault? What a lie. |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
34. That will be such old news in November. |
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JKaiser (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. November is 6 months away.. not that faraway to me.. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #41 |
49. In terms of politics, it's a long way off. |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
43. Rasmuusen Market rates a 62% that Obama will win the GE |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
46. most recent Q-poll has Obama down by only one-point in both MI and FL |
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Bensthename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
51. That's odd. I had no idea they would not be able to vote in the GE... |
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caledesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
58. I guess you haven't heard of the "50-State Strategy? nt |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
59. good thing there's 48 other states |
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shaniqua6392 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
60. There are many here in Michigan that have not forgotten |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
61. Obama will win MI, FL will go republican (as it would no matter the nominee) -eom |
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