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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:44 PM
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What confounds me is why voters in West Virginia keep voting for NAFTA and China trade stooges
Hillary Clinton, despite what she has stated, has always been for NAFTA. She was the "closer" in several pro-NAFTA meetings, as per released records while she was First lady. Bill Clinton SIGNED NAFTA. The China free trade laws were supported by both Clintons with Bill signing that into law.

Fast forward to tonight's primary race. If you look at the absolute devastation economically from the Clintons supporting the free trade legislation, you'd think that a light bulb would light in some of the working class minds that they are being duped. Are they that uninformed by these policies?

Since January 2001, West Virginia has experienced heavy job losses in industries that typically provide higher wages and good benefits—11,000 lost manufacturing jobs and 1,900 lost information jobs. Despite offsetting gains in other industries, West Virginia still experienced a net job loss of 1,200 jobs between January 2001 and August 2004.

West Virginia is losing jobs, in part, because of unfair trade rules and because corporations here, as around the United States, are shipping good jobs overseas. In 2003, the U.S. Department of Labor announced that at least 11 West Virginia companies slashed jobs from their payrolls due to trade. These cuts affected an estimated 898 workers. The Dean Co., EIMCO LLC and Pechiney Rolled Products LLC alone cut 488 jobs; some of these jobs were shipped overseas. NAFTA alone has cost West Virginia 3,482 jobs.

Meanwhile, jobs in West Virginia’s growing industries aren’t as good as the jobs in West Virginia’s shrinking industries.* Average wages in the state’s growing industries are 33.8 percent lower—$12,070 per year less—than those in West Virginia’s shrinking industries. In West Virginia, growing industries have lower health coverage rates than industries that are shrinking; nearly two-thirds (62.3 percent) of workers West
Virginia’s shrinking industries have employer-provided health coverage, while one-half (51.0 percent) of workers in West Virginia’s growing industries have employer-provided health insurance.

Too many workers unemployed:
In August, 43,829 West Virginians were unemployed. Workers unemployed the longest suffer most. From the end of December 2003 through September 2004, 9,937 West Virginians reached the end of eligibility
for unemployment benefits but still could not find jobs. Because the president and allies in Congress have refused to renew the emergency unemployment program no longer have federal benefits to fall back on
for basic support.

Declining health coverage:
Job loss and exploding health costs have shrunk the rolls of West Virginians with job-based health coverage and swelled the ranks of the uninsured. Between 2000 and 2003, the number of West Virginians with employer-provided health care fell by 123,000, a 12.5 percent drop. In 2003, 296,000 West Virginians were uninsured, an increase of 46,000—18.4 percent—in just three years.

Lower incomes, greater poverty and more bankruptcies:
West Virginians are struggling to get by. Half of all West Virginia households have incomes of $32,763 or less, lower than all but two states. More West Virginians slipped into poverty: In 2003, 310,000 West Virginians were poor—49,000 more than in 2000. And personal bankruptcies rose 29.2 percent, from 8,369 in 2000 to 10,811 in 2003.

http://www.showusthejobs.com/yourstate/upload/WV.pdf


States like Ohio and Pennsylvania have pretty much the same level of damage from the Clintonian policies, which just so happen to be McCain policies. Reminding voters in those states of how McCain policies equal more of the same will be one of Obama's critical messages in the General Election.

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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:46 PM
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1. Because they willingly believe the lies white politicians tell them and
ignore the truth when it comes from a politician of color?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:46 PM
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2. maybe the same reason people from illinois keep voting for Iraq occupation stooges? nt
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:31 PM
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10. we are so sorry we offended you
by electing dick durbin and barack obama. i guess i`ll have to vote for Dr. Steve Sauerberg who is running against durbin this year. we certainly do`t need durbin in the senate for the next six years
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:47 PM
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3. that 'uneducated' word is a big hint
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:48 PM
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4. They're bitter.
So they cling to their failed policies and failed candidates.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:49 PM
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5. but, but, but, "We had a surplus when we were in office!"
You mean there were things done in the 90s that were wrong?
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:50 PM
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6. "low-information voters"
Folks can get their feelings hurt around here all day long, but this is EXACTLY what we've complained about before: uneducated voters who are easily divided (race) and vote against their interests.

But we're not supposed to talk about that. :eyes:
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:09 PM
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7. Because they know...
you can't outsource coal-mining?
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:16 PM
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8. You can eliminate jobs and destroy the ecosystems and local
economies with Mountain top removal. You can also contribute to the deaths of coal miners by not enforcing mine safety standards. Yet WV still went for Bush in '04.

But, WV does have other job producing industries besides Coal Mining that are harmed by NAFTA. I'm thinking specifically of the truck bed and body manufacturing industry.

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:36 PM
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11. The source I mentioned had other industries that have left WV
Coal mining is hardly the safest industry to have all West Virginia citizens doing...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:20 PM
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9. west virgina is corrupt to the core..
they have been used and abused for so long by big coal and the democratic party that they are just like abused wifes who keep going back to their husbands...they watch their mountains be stripped ,their streams die,and their homes wash away in the floods but they accept it as their lot in life...

i can not bring myself to mock them because who ever goes into into the earth to make a living i have the up most respect for. i can understand how their families feel knowing that each day their husband,brother,or father may never return alive...

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 08:47 AM
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12. If this country had same demographics as West Virginia, we'd be screwed
Old and uneducated... Hillary's base...

More than any other state that has voted to date, a disproportionate number of voters were people older than 60 (about four in 10), and had no college education (seven in 10 voters).

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121068530334488343.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news


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