Should Hillary drop out?

She's just dividing us now.

and hurting her own future political career in my opinion.

but some people see her in a whole different light now and it isn't very positive. Hillary is putting her ego before the country. If she really gave a crap about the country in my opinion she would have dropped out and supported Obama and worked toward unifying both sides against the Republicans, then a unified ticket could be supported and we would end up stronger for it. But that didn't happen so she is going to try and change the rules because she doesn't like the way things are playing out. Don't tell me the Republicans wouldn't have a field day with that during the GE. But you know what, obviously my opinion isn't valid because I don't support Hillary.

She can still win if she has a convincing case that can be made to them. That's what we have super delegates for.

While it's not my place to ask her to quit, I think she should for the sake of the general election. It's perfectly in her right to continue and it's perfectly in the rights of Super Delegates to overturn this primary process but it doesn't seem wise or just to me. I'd rather the party leaders hold a closed door session instead of a primary and determine who they want to be our nominee in the general election than to go through this whole process and stll decide it that way.

With the way SDs have been coming out for Obama lately, that's going to be a tough benchmark to reach. I wonder what effect it will have on the party if she tries for it.

Know when to fold 'em and all that....

working then they need to understand why it isn't working. And they need to figure out if they can actually make it work.

You know, some people are tone deaf. They perhaps need to quit attempting to be a professional singer and instead become a percussionist. It's alright to try something and fail. In fact it's a sign of character. But to pretend failure is success is pathetic.

Quiting isn't wrong or bad. Worse is failing to know thine own self, in terms of strengths and weaknesses. Worse than quiting is the inability to assess ones situation and take action based on that assessment.

I already know I won't win the Cy Young award. I've quit. And it's ok.

I'm sure someone is foaming at the mouth over the question

:rofl:

I would not mind that, and you could have veto power with no hard feelings for extending this favor. If any moderators see this, they can let me know if this arrangement is OK too.

I know how excited I was to be able to have my primary vote actually mean something for the first time I ever remember! I've lived in 4 States, and each one had their primary late enough in the process that the candidate had already been chosen by the time our primary came along. I want the people in those 5 remaining primaries to have the same opportunity.

Do they forget the primary is being run in a democracy?

How else can we make sure that 'every state counts'?

Hillary IS winning primaries. As proved by yesterday's vote, she has mass appeal even if that is not the sentiment on DU.

Do you think this is the first primary in American History?

Are you equally frustrated with all the other candidates in history dropping out before all states had a chance to influence the outcome?

No, you're not. In fact you really don't give a rat's ass, do you? If the situation were reversed, you'd have been screaming for Obama to drop out months ago. And likely he would have done so gracefully for several reasons; 1) He can easily take another shot at it in 4 - 8 years. 2) As a junior Senator, he would have the common sense not to be harming the party with a protracted candidacy. 3) The media and the party would be saying the same things.

Well cheesecake, many other candidates with class have dropped out even with a better chance for securing the nomination than Clinton has now, and none of them were concerned over 'disenfranchising' various states. Otherwise, she wouldn't have already agreed to discount MI and FL.

Reality, try it.

people realise she can suspend her campaign
and people could still vote right?

"Let the people vote" is a ruse. It really means "give me more time to make more progressively disgusting attacks in trying to make Obama unelectable".

"I haven't won but let me win anyway". Let the game play out. Afraid of what might happen?

yeah, im afraid of what will happen in november because of all of this.

we all should be.

but you dont care about that.

thank god theres only less than a month left.

This is making the party stronger not weaker.

Of course. Hillary's delusional stubborness could destroy America, most of the world, and parts of outer space.

Go Hillary!!

Hey, if you 22-29%ers love the guy who gave America such huge debt, look at me! Look at me!

One wonders just who she is playing to at this point.

One sees Lieberman standing up with McCain and one wonders who he (promoted by Clintons in 2000) is playing to.

One sees such a badly run campaign taking the nominee-apparent and turning her into a national tackling dummy and one wonders.

Who is she playing to at this point?

I am tired of puppets for the status quo pretending they give a shit about us regular people. I am getting too old to be patient with the pretense.

We have only 3 weeks to go and it's over. She should call it quits in June.

it would be nice if she'd stop trying to inflict damage on Obama and start trying to inflict damage on McCain. Since she has zero chance of winning the nomination, all she's doing is bruising Obama and making it more difficult for him in November.

It's not her "staying in" or "dropping out" that is the issue, it's her delusional over-the-top attitude that she's going "all the way to the White House". If she is going to the White House it will only be if she buys a new house and paints it white.

according to the 'rules', she should have dropped out along time ago. Now that we are waiting for the catastrophic event that will leave Senator Obama unelectable, she should stay in until that hope is realized.

I posted a few months ago that she was just trying to GET TO DENVER and work the party officials there but at this point if they give it to her the party is completely finished. She can hang around all she wants (bowing out TO HIM at the convention would be fine theater) but she does have to go at some point.

Oh and the niceties about her getting the VP? pure BS. He isn't going to offer it and she would never take it.

misbehaving--I hug them until they calm down.

Not that the opinions of a bunch of Obamaphiles on D.U. matter to anyone anyway.

:P

that way people can vote, but no more vicious attacks.

she needs to STFU and DTFO.

(if anyone can guess what DTFO means, you are special)

Clinton is doing a MAGNIFICENT job of that. (Pelosi and Reid are not bad either).

A real people's party, a socialist party.

It's been an education:9

The real question is what lala land have YOU been in?

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Like voting third-party.

Like expecting either wing of the Money Party to pay more than lip service to the needs and will of the people.

Refute my statement.

Better yet, come on over for some three card monte, I can always use a mark's money.

Don't care.

And I'm an Obama supporter.

There are only 5 primaries left. At this point, let her finish it out.

Besides, her being in the race brings more attention to the Democrats, while McCain can't even get face time.

If she wants to leave the race with at least some dignity still intact, she should tone down her negative rhetoric, and start talking about the positives of a general Democratic ticket against McCain. At least Huckabee departed the GOP race with class.

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She needs to finish for the sake of her supporters who would perceive her quitting as establishment pressure and take it out on the Democrats in the GE. Any damage caused by the prolonged race has already been done.

....not before then.

The convention selects the nominee after all the delegates of the 50 states and the rest are certified and seated and the first round of selections is completed and in his favor. Maybe. Maybe not.

Soon enough she'll a forgotten footnote to the campaign of 2008.

DU is almost completely flipped from what "traditional" polls are getting. I don't dispute Rasmussen, et. al., rather I think it gives you an indication of how skewed the zeitgeist is around here.

And before somebody from the Obama camp flames me, I voted for Obama and I voted "yes" in this particular poll.

Now you Hillary supporters can flame me...