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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:54 AM
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Whty can't Hillary Clinton win among 'hard working white people' in
Wyoming
Vermont
Wisconsin
Maryland
Virginia
Maine
Louisiana
Nebraska
Alaska
Colorado
Conneticut
Delaware
Georgia
North Dakota
Utah


All states where Obama won the white majority and we assume the hard working whites specifically.

Why is it that the media keeps repeating Clinton spin when it isn't true? Why does Clinton's wins among 'hard working whites' also occur mostly in areas like Ohio and Pennsylvania where she runs with the assistance of local machines with old school type Governors?

Why is it when states with the exact same demographics of PA and OH, like Wisconsin and Indiana Clinton either gets slammed or can only win with the help of Limbaugh.


Why is that it is 'working class whites' but it is always 'poor blacks"?


Thank god we only have 137 more delegates to go before we can stop having to put up with these questions.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:55 AM
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1. Media will keep repeating it until Obama's surrogates counter spin it.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:56 AM
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2. Because HRC SAYS that the White folk in those states: 1) don't count; and 2) are NOT hard working.
:eyes:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:58 AM
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3. Because white folks in those states still have all their teeth?
:hide:
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:59 AM
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4. I suspect it has something to do with how the states vote
i.e. caucus vs electro-fraud machines vs voting with a verifiable paper trail.

Obama's the clear winner in the caucus states. Hillary won Diebolded states like Ohio and PA. How does West Virginia vote?
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:59 AM
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5. education
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:00 PM
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6. Thinkin DEM voters in Idaho are pretty much a white majority too
Idaho is, as my husband lovingly call it, white bread land.

Obama did fine there too. Big crowds, won the contest.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:02 PM
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7. Don't forget Minnesota.
We have hard working taconite miners, factory workers and farmers that help keep this country running and Obama won the state handily. :D
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wvbygod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:06 PM
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8. Another misquote. Nice try.
You forgot the comma in: 'hard working, white people'

Even us dumb hillbillies know a comma means something in reading comprehension.
Perhaps you knew it too and left it out on purpose?
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beezlebum Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:08 PM
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9. rofl, the comma
Edited on Wed May-14-08 12:09 PM by beezlebum
sure give us another perspective/spin

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:09 PM
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10. that is a distinction without a difference
and the pejorative use of 'dumb hillbillies' is most unattractive

but you certainly were 'dumb' in missing the point. Obama has won more states with white majorities than Hillary Clinton
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:49 PM
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17. You're wrong. It was "hardworking Americans, white Americans". Here's the video:
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:09 PM
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11. Didn't he win the majority of white men in California too?
I thought I saw that somewhere.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:10 PM
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12. Yes and Illinois etc
But I wanted to make the point in states where he either won by huge majorities or in states that had virtually no non white voters at all
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:47 PM
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16. at least you left Kansas off the list
I still think there may have been more white people in Obama's caucus than there were men in Hillary's caucus (at my caucus site) but I did not try to make such a count and would not think it mattered anyway.
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:11 PM
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13. Personally, I want to know why she can't win the votes of hard-working black Americans (nt)
Edited on Wed May-14-08 01:12 PM by Ian_rd
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:38 PM
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15. and of course that was my point thanks
what would happen in the country if they said 'working class blacks' and 'poor whites' instead of the other way around
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:13 PM
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14. They're not white enough?
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:19 PM
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18. Kick, we can add Oregon now
Obama is up by 20 points there :)
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