Yes, last night's MS pickup was a thumb in the eye of the Clinton wing of the party.

They were, after all, the people who strongly opposed Howard Dean's 50-state strategy. They were the people who called him 'incompetent' and 'foolish' for daring to believe that Democrats could get people in all corners of the nation to vote for the candidates who actually represented them best. And they scorned the idea of building infrastructures in each state. Case in point: Paul Begala, almost exactly two years ago:

He has raised $74 million and spent $64 million. He says it's a long-term strategy. But what he has spent it on, apparently, is just hiring a bunch of staff people to wander around Utah and Mississippi and pick their nose. That's not how you build a party. You win elections. That's how you build a party.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/12/143330/912

Two years after Howard Dean led the party to a 2006 landslide, those people who wandered around Mississippi picking their nose just captured a seat in a heavily conservative, R+10 district. And thanks to his 50-state strategy--the strategy that the Clinton wing of the party fought tooth and nail--we're looking at further expanding our majorities in both the House and the Senate in November.

Clinton's opposition to Dean (and frequent Clinton-camp threats to replace Dean with a McAwful-clone if she takes the White House) was a crucial factor in my decision to support Obama over her. It's nice to see People-Powered Howard vindicated yet again.

can you imagine what it is like for them to recruit people to run in Democratic districts this year? Raise money?

Gore almost won LA in 2000. I think Obama can get it this year.

It's working!!!

went on to help the Democratic Party immeasureably and John Kerry is doing a great job, too. :patriot: :patriot: :bounce: :kick: :party:

Seriously. He's setting us up to be the majority party for the forseeable future.

ain't it? I think he most definitly did:)

crow by now.

So, Obama got a Mississippi endorsement? Grand:)

He is the hardest working man in politics.

THANK GAWD he's a progressive!!!!

GO HOWARD!

Go Dean! :)

We're not just supporting a great candidate, but the 50-state
strategy HE HAS EMPLOYED in his campaign, and also the reconquest
of the Democratic Party by its DEMOCRATIC WING!

Thanks for giving me another reason for supporting against her. In this case I am pulling more FOR BHO than AGAINST HRC but make no mistake about it, I am also supporting AGAINST HRC as well. I would have been a bit more than bitterly disappointed to have had to vote for and supported a President Clinton. I am quite encouraged with current developments and look cheerfully forward to a President Obama.
KnR

to discredit your work!

He's the best thing that has happened to our party in a long, long time.

I'm curious...

I fell in LOVE with his policies and principles the
day I heard this speech:

http://dean2004.blogspot.com/2003/03/transcript-deans-ca-dem-speech.html

snip>What I want to know is what in the world so many Democrats are doing supporting the President’s unilateral intervention in Iraq?

What I want to know is what in the world so many Democrats are doing supporting tax cuts, which have bankrupted this country and given us the largest deficit in the history of the United States?

What I want to know is why the Congress is fighting over the patient’s bill of rights? The patient’s bill of rights is a good bill, but not one more person gets health insurance and it’s not 5 cents cheaper.

What I want to know is why the Democrats in Congress aren’t standing up for us joining every other industrialized country on the face of the Earth and having health insurance for every man, woman and child in America.

What I want to know is why so many folks in Congress are voting for the President’s Educations Bill “The No School Board Left Standing Bill” the largest un-funded mandate in the history of our educational system!



Look up the actual audio/video of the speech and
MARVEL!

that I disliked, it was his delivery. Of course, he's not a professional politician which is to his credit but to me he just ran off at the mouth and needed to check his emotions a bit.

As I said, I'm eating those words now, he's been fabulous.

I asked him recently why he didn't like Dean then, and he said he really doesn't know.
He likes him now though.

Love ya man! :bounce:

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/04/30/politics/horserace/entry4059136.shtml


When you see Republican candidates distancing themselves from Bush, you don't say that's a sign of strength for Bush.

This was a very conservative Democrat winning that seat.

It does say hopeful things for the Democratic Party's chances this fall.

It doesn't say anything in particular about Obama and Clinton.

Neither did the Cazayoux win, though I saw Obama fans trying to claim it did because the GOP ran ads showing Obama. They had Clinton and Pelosi in those ads, too.

looking forward to your spin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPNvUBFcau0

Thanks for that.

It would have been a blowout Republican victory.

Bill Clinton working to bring about the thumb in his eye.

Clinton, Dean, the 50-state strategy, the DCCC, ALL won.

one of the current candidates for President leads the wing of the party that has actively opposed Dean, scorned Dean's strategies, and threatened repeatedly to replace Dean once she takes office. Dem victories are great. Keeping the people in office who can win? That's even better.

Pointing out that members of that wing have not actively sabotaged Democratic races (well, other than the Presidential) this campaign does not negate the point.

Bill Clinton and Howard Dean are both brilliant.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/03/bill_clintons_a.html

(...)

And Dean has one supremely important new ally who, when he goes public, will almost certainly help with donors. In late February, Dean traveled to Harlem and sat down with former President Bill Clinton, often said to be privately disparaging of Dean.

But as Dean walked Clinton through his 50-state capacity-building project, Clinton became a convert. He vowed to help Dean win the attention of donors.

http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2006/11/11/machine-democrats-maneuver-to-oust-howard-dean/

The fact that Clinton pays lip service to Dean does not change the fact that:

A: Carville, Begala, and the rest of the Clinton squad have repeatedly called for Dean's head on the teevee shows (with Carville even calling Dean "Rumsfeldian in his incompetence" after the 2006 landslide).

B: They have indicated repeatedly that Dean and 50 states are both out once Clinton wins.

That would give us a majority that we haven't seen since 1990 and eclipsing the Republicans largest majority after the 1994 Election.

Thanks, Gov. Dean!

about politics again. He's the best thing that's happened to the dem party in years. He spoke truth to power and was vilified for it. But he didn't let that stop him from implementing his vision for this party and he has worked tirelessly to make it viable again. I got nothing but love for Howard Dean.

The hated republican would have WON and it would have been ALL DEAN'S FAULT. Actually, I don't know this, I'm just following your rhetorical style.

The fact is, this great victory was probably aided by all of the 50-state strategy, the huge spending, and by Bill Clinton. There's no need to turn this into something negative for no reason.

a good thing--and it's a good thing that is still opposed by the Clinton camp.

re-election in this northern district with over 60% in 06. When Senator lott retired barbour selected wicker to take the seat. Now Wicker(R) will face Musgrove(D), former Govenor in November.

This race was ugly from beginning to end. You had Davis slinging mud and Childers slinging it right back. No issues were hardly ever discussed except with the newspapers. Childers had to disown obama in this race as Davis made an issue out of it and even had Childers on tape saying that he never was endorsed by obama. So, this 1st district race was about who could get out the vote and Childers did that in many more counties.....Oh and they go at it again in November.

Kos, as I said, knows jackshit about the election in Miss.

Give it a rest, will ya?

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but not so well for the Democratic establishment. The inside the beltway types hate losing control of the party to Democrats out in the hinterlands. That is the most exciting thing about an Obama victory - it could signal a permanent shift of the Democratic party away from identity politics towards coalition politics.

Attempting to be all things to all people is bound to end badly...