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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 01:38 AM
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for all the talk of Obama as Messiah, HILLARY has the religious following
Edited on Fri May-16-08 01:40 AM by PretzelWarrior
even after the numbers are coming down squarely in Obama's court. even after Obama has weathered the storm of controversy and NEGATIVISM STARTED BY HILLARY as a desperation move..

they are still religiously clinging to Hillary as their talisman. GET it together people!!! This nominee is apparent. Nothing short of God coming down out of heaven and forcing people in Oregon and Kentucky to vote 90% for Hillary is going to change the outcome.

What I cannot tolerate is how stupid, blind supporters of Hillary try to threaten they will vote for McCain. REALLLLYYYY!!!??!

Then don't come to this site in another 2 weeks or you will be tombstoned. This is DEMOCARATIC underground. Not Hillary Underground. Or CLinton's way or the highway Underground.

Whoever Democrats support as the nominee....that is the one we will all be rallying behind.

HAVE YOU FOOLISH FOLKS NOT LEARNED A THING from 2004?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 01:41 AM
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1. Let them get the "Change that they Deserve"........
They won't know what hit them. Reminds me of Democrats who voted for Bush the Compassionate Conservative in West Virginia. The joke ended being on on them.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 01:43 AM
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2. "I've had about enough of HUSSEIN"
"I don't like him because he's Muslim"

what a bunch of Nimrods they interviewed in West Virginia. Apparently inhaling all that coal dust affected their intelligence.

and that was just the women.
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:32 AM
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6. you like to think all those smears don't work...
But they really do. Those Republicans assholes know exactly what they're doing when they say Barack Hussein Obama, etc. You'd think that people would be smart enough to at the very least recognize the contradiction that he's a Muslim who's been attending a Christian church for the past 20 years with a now-famous pastor, but no, some people really are that stupid. Though, I'm sure one aspect is that being anti-Muslim is currently more "respectable" than being anti-Black, so saying it's because of "Hussein" or because he's a Muslim is really just code for "I don't want no negra in the White House."

It's kind of ironic that WV came into existence by splitting off from Virginia to remain with the United States in the Civil War, yet now they'd make the Confederacy proud, while Virginia was a landslide for Obama. That at least makes this Virginian proud. ;-)
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:35 AM
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7. you are right. either way "it's a buncha brown people"
either Arabs like Hussein and Osama or black guy like Barack Hussein Obama. I like your point that it is 'fasionable' to have issues with a Muslim and is a great replacement for racism per se.

We have our work cut out for us...but something tells me most of those types were never going to be Obama voters anyway. We can still win the White House WITHOUT white supremacist racists.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 01:47 AM
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3. I know. That's the really ironic part.
Three months ago, this board was awash in accusations that Obama supporters were all "cultists."

Now that HRC is losing, many (not all) of her followers have morphed into "loyalists," clinging to an image, an icon, an idol. THEY'RE now the ones who have embraced a cult of personality. They threaten the rest of us with vague retribution if HRC doesn't get the nod. They refuse to admit she's run a campaign of errors and missatements. They refuse to acknowledge the reality closing in around them.

It'd be kinda funny if it weren't so sad.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:58 AM
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10. So we're cultists
Edited on Fri May-16-08 03:19 AM by MonkeyFunk
for supporting someone who's still in the race? That's pretty silly.

I see today's Obama fan attack is to paint support for Hillary as a personal, moral failing. Yeah, that'll help.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:10 AM
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20. Not for supporting her while she is still in the race
But some people (I don't think you are one of them) seem so hell bent on wanting Clinton to be president that they plan to actively campaign against Obama in hopes that she will get another shot in 2012. Given how similar they are on the issues, that seems like a cult of personality to me.

Now I'll be honest and say that if the tables were turned, I would vote for Clinton and probably volunteer, but there would be a part of me that hoped she lost so Obama would get another chance in 4 years. But I certainly would not vote for McCain or actively try to convince people not to vote for Clinton.

I don't think the majority of Clinton supporters are like the women from Ohio who announced their intention to actively campaign against Obama yesterday, but I am a little freaked out by some of the stuff I read at TalkLeft and No Quarter and Hillaryis44.com. And I saw a petition last night with over 3,000 signatures from people claiming to be Democrats saying they will vote against Obama in November...it could be freepers posing as Dems, but I don't think it is, and it's kind of scary.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:30 AM
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21. I don't appreciate the implication that my opinions are monolithic.
If you read the post I wrote you'll see a crucial caveat in parenthesis.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:01 AM
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4. It's time to let the Clintons go - away. I'm done with them. On their own
terms, let them go, please.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:13 AM
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5. I am praying it is before May is over with.
We need a full 5 months of ONLY Obama vs. McCain so McCain can be fully bloodied and beaten by us and the awesome Obama campaign strategists.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 04:28 AM
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12. I agree. We should let the Clintons leave without pressing charges against them.
Edited on Fri May-16-08 04:28 AM by TexasObserver
They can even keep all the stuff they've stolen, but they must leave and go home!!
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:43 AM
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8. I totally agree.
Sometimes GDP sounds like GD Primates.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:52 AM
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highprincipleswork Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 04:26 AM
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11. In charge of emotions
It's generally considered a given that being in charge of one's emotions and taking responsibility for them is one of the signs of adult behavior. Not repressing, but acknowledging, expressing, and taking responsibility.

So, no matter what others have done, isn't it up to any supporters to take charge of their own emotions and their own actions? Nobody can actually make you do anything, in the end, other than yourself.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 05:28 AM
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13. "Pro Clinton post"
I didn't see anything positive about Sen. Clinton in this post laden with personal attacks.

If you are going to launch attacks just go on with it, no need to try to drag a cross about at the same time.

Julie
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Rene Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 05:35 AM
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14. www.attacktimeline.com clearly shows obama ran the negative campaign and planted
all the negative messages. and in a very rovian way interjected the race card himself.
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ExPatLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:24 AM
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19. "all the negative messages"!
Edited on Fri May-16-08 06:39 AM by ExPatLeftist
Really? ALL of them? Come on, that's just silly. But then you have an obvious bias, just like that site does. Funny also how it only shows one side, and includes refutation on his part of attacks by Hillary as "attacks" in and of themselves...

But in the end, what is your point? To bring down the Democratic nominee? In case you haven't noticed, we have a nominee. No amount of whining and complaining is going to change that, so I ask again - at this stage, what is your point?
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Rene Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 05:37 AM
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15. have you sheeple not learned a thing since 2000 when w said he was the candidate for change?
we've had hell on wheels for 7 years since. 2 men produced/marketed by king makers. I say obama's no different than w - other than the better preaching vocabulary. 2 empty suits---panderers
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 05:49 AM
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18. So sorry,
hillbot. That spurious accusation that Obama is like bush won't fly. It's patently ridiculous. You hillsheeple stiill have your hearts fastened to a dying concern. Your gal is toast. She ran an epically bad campaign. And Obama's no more an empty suit than Hilly is an empty pahtsuit. Get over it. She lost.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 05:45 AM
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16. Obama's religious campaign
gee, how did that meme get started?



oh, by Obama
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:37 AM
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22. interesting how you changed the subject
I wasn't talking about Hillary's or Obama's appeal to religious (CHRISTIAN) voters.

I was referring to the stupid meme that anyone who supported Obama was only lured into his trap by smooth and silky words as though we were a bunch of cultists.

I then pointed out the ones looking like they're lining up for Koolaid flavored turpentine are Hillary die hard supporters who go so far as to say they will actively support the Republican nominee in protest of the fact that "their" candidate didn't get the nod.

P.S. I think it's very shrewd for Obama to go over the top with Christian images since stupid fuck WV people seem to think he's Muslim to this day.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 05:45 AM
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17. Secret Time Traveling Nazi Muslim
Some of them would go far enough to believe that.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:42 AM
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23. Thank you
Some of them have gone off the deep end when they demand that folks on the DU be nice to them or they will vote McCain. I mean really..... we have gotten to the point that you will let the internets influence your vote, really? Then some of them have the nerve to blame Obama for some of the comments that are said to them on the DU. I just don't get it, and I don't get the blackmailing of people on the internet. That is when you know that there are issues.
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