DU, are we going with 2025 or 2210 to decide the nominee?

As an Obama supporter, I believe the original number of 2025 set by the DNC stands as a result of FLA/MI breaking the rules. If there is any compromise to seat the delegates, it should not be representative of the actual votes in the two illegitimate contests. Barring a redo (which would be most fair to the voters), I could fathom some seating formula which reflects the national popular vote percentage.

Hillary and her communications director Wolfson have now shifted the number from 2025 to 2210. Mr. Wolfson has said he would not even consider an exit strategy for Hillary unless the delegates from FLA/MI were seated. That sounds like an empty threat. And yet, even if we get past 2025, Hillary may elect to take her new numeric to the convention for a floor fight.

That being said, I acknowledge my view is biased. I know the good moderators of DU have worked hard to maintain a nonpartisan position in the Obama vs Hillary battle. Which brings me back to the OP question:

Once a nominee is known or official - per Skinner & Co., we begin that last week to chill or vent. Yet which number are we going with to translate it into an official or known nominee? 2025 or 2210?

Or will we need to wait until our party's nominee is making an acceptance speech at the convention to know the answer?


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Fuck this Hillary "move the goalposts again" fiction.

In an effort to not take sides, if Hillary refuses to drop out --- we may have to wait all the way till late August to really know who our official nominee is.

Until the rules committee decides otherwise - the number is 2025.

And, who makes the final decision? Certainly not one of the candidates... :shrug:

Hey, the fat lady ain't even warming up her voice yet.

On the likelihood that FL and/or MI will have a portion of their delegates stripped, even if some ARE seated, then the total will be somewhere in between.

Until the Party says otherwise. If the party decides 2210 thant thats the number.

Or is it the credentials committee?

I have been corrected for using both incorrectly or correctly. Thanks :hi:

Of course, assuming Dean and the DNC say it's Obama.

Its the rules committee. The credentials committe meets at the end of June.

We follow the rules and respect that the DNC will have a fair process.

Or not.

I still get them mixed up.

If some sort of negotiated seating of Florida occurs, but with only half their delegates being counted (the same could happen in MI), that would result in a different number that 2025 or 2210.

But that will not happen until after Obama reaches 2025 - and with Hillary having moved the goal posts so many times the media has pretty much tuned her out on the topic, along with most people that are tired of hearing her cry wolf - so from the meaningful standpoint of super delegate perception, I suspect the magic number is 2025.

I don't think it matters. Obama has won either way! The campaign vs McOlderthandirt has begun.

if they decided to seat half of the delegates in each state, like the repubs.