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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:33 PM
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SUSA Polls, OR: Obama By 13; KY: Clinton By 32
SUSA Polls, OR: Obama By 13; KY: Clinton By 32
By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:49:42 PM EST
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SUSA on Oregon and Kentucky. In Oregon:

In the Oregon Democratic Primary, which is conducted entirely by mail-in ballot, Barack Obama leads Hillary Clinton by 9 points among the 77% of likely voters who have already returned a ballot, according to a SurveyUSA poll conducted for KATU-TV in Portland. When all likely voters are included, including those who say they will return a ballot before the window of opportunity closes, Obama defeats Clinton 55% to 42%.
In Kentucky :

Clinton leads 62% to 30% today, effectively unchanged from SurveyUSA polls released 4 weeks, 2 weeks and 1 week ago.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/19/144942/236
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:35 PM
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1. I guess JE didn't really help...?
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:36 PM
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2. Really? didn't several of his pledged delegates jump to Obama? That's what it's all about.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:39 PM
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7. woo-woo...
snore.... What he and JE did, to shut down Hillary's VICTORY in VW was...Shameful! really..Zer kLaSS.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:44 PM
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12. Yep, he took Hill's victory in WVA off the radar
and Obama net several delegates from him too, woo-woo. Tomorrow Obama will win Oregon big and net more than enough delegates to win the pledged delegate race and that will be the big story.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:44 PM
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13. Oh, please. That's *campaign strategy*. If Hillary can't take the heat, you know the rest!
n/t
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:00 PM
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18. If all it took was one endorsement to "shut down" a 40 point win
then that was either more of an impressive endorsement than the people dismissing it make it out to be, or it wasn't much of a win.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:50 PM
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24. I guess asking yourself a question looks really stupid.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:37 PM
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3. among those who have not returned their ballots when polled Obama led by 28-points.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:38 PM
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4. Yikes! That quite an upcoming walloping on the "nominee."
Now if OR tightens, it will be interesting indeed!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:41 PM
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10. Obama will beat Hill by at least 15. PPP has him up by
17%. An Oregon polling firm has him up by 20. And my bet is he doesn't lose by more than 23-26 points in KY. Still a walloping but really insignificant. Obama will only need a very few SDs to put him over the top come Wednesday. Hill will still need around 150. She's done.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:41 PM
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11. Interesting in a "isn't that nice" kind of way
yet meaningless in the sense of who the nominee will be.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:38 PM
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5. Clinton needs @90% of the vote for a shot at the pledged delegate lead, right?
Looks like she has her work cut out for her, even in Kentucky.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:38 PM
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6. so Hillary gets 17 more delegates from KY and loses 8 from OR..She nets 9!!!
How many days of netting 9 delegates does she need to catch up to his 160-180 point lead (depending on various counts of supers)

Way too little, way too late
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:52 PM
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16. and the 9+ members of the Pelosi club endorse Obama. It's a wash.
Poor Hill, she can't win for winning.
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:40 PM
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8. So?
Kentucky isn't going to turn her campaign around.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:40 PM
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9. ..
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:04 PM
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19. Hey...look who's warming up
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:50 PM
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14. Same Thing We Heard After Indiana/North Carolina
Hillary wins one, Obama wins one. Obama stretches his lead in popluar and delegate vote. The most fatalistic Hillary supporters spin it as some sort of old school beat down for Obama. They'll say he can't win white, working class voters while the rest of us wonder why he's crushing her in Oregon, a state filled with white, working class voters. Most of us go on realizing the democratic primary is over, and has been for awhile.

The only difference now is that the media has pretty much picked up on the fact that it's over as well and have begun to focus on the Obama/McCain race (and please believe that is the only race still going on).

With or without the Edwards endorsement the race is still over and has been since Hillary failed to win OH/TX by a margin big enough for her to have any hope of closing the delegate lead. I'm sorry the Edwards endorsement ended the new cycle for Hillary and her "pity party" win in West Virginia.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:52 PM
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15. Looks like tomorrow will be +7 pledged delegates for Clinton based on those polls
Oregon:
Clinton - 22
Obama - 30

Kentucky:
Clinton - 33
Obama - 18

55 for Clinton, 48 for Obama, Clinton +7.

New pledged delegate totals would be:
Clinton - 1,497.5 (129 below half, with 86 pledged delegates left)
Obama - 1,659.5 (33 above half, with 86 pledged delegates left)

:hi:
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:54 PM
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17. I wonder why they bother polling anymore.
How is McCain polling against Ron Paul?
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:27 PM
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20. KY, like WV and rural PA, is good for HRC because. . .
...it has a large number of folks who would never vote for an African America but, unlike Deep Southern states, lacks the large number of African Americans to vote for Obama.
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soaplover20012001 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:27 PM
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21. wow
fair
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:49 PM
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23. What's your point, that
Hillary Dems are racists?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:45 PM
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22. Yeah, but KY doesn't count, because a Dem won't win there in the GE.
Unless Obama does! ;-)
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