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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:01 PM
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People who would support Mcsame over Obama were never Democrats to begin with...
they were corporatists wearing the clothing of whatever party made them look good for the moment.

Money, corporate power and personal power is all these people care about.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:13 PM
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1. We need more than Democrats to win.
So we have to appeal to people who aren't Democrats. There are always people not happy with their party's candidate. Most vote for him (always a him, eh?) anyway. The bigger problem will be getting those who think they are independents to vote for him.

The question I have is this: Obama is all over the map. Right now he's pretending to be a liberal. Last year he was pretending to be a moderate courting the evangelicals. Earlier he ran from the African American community, now he embraces them. Clearly, he's going to move to the center, and judging by his constant favorable mentionings of Reagan, I suspect he'll move even a little right of that. Remember, the votes in the middle count twice, those on the edge only once, because those in the middle will vote for the other guy (always a guy) if they don't like your candidate, whereas those on the fringe will stay home or vote third party. That's how he'll get those moderates to vote for him. I'm not complaining, that's just how a campaign works.

Will his progressive fan base dump him, then? Will it become unDemocratic to support him?
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:15 PM
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3. we have the entire middle
Closed primaries dont show it but the open ones do.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:14 PM
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2. wether it be for tantrum or otherwise, you are correct
Obama is the surgeon, Clinton is the tumor.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:16 PM
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4. AMEN!
:thumbsup:
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:16 PM
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5. they could also be racist. Long time dems who vote for McCain or stay home for the first time
definitely call themselves into question one way or another.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:46 PM
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6. Forget independents --
I have talked to life-long Republicans who say they've had enough and are voting for Obama. This will be their first vote for a Democrat. They are pissed.
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