Women to the barricades : eMail leaked from prominent Clinton supporter

Did they ride their bikes without their helmets again?

they have pots and pans! :evilgrin:

Because if McLoon wins this election because of those Hillbots, I'll make sure he drafts every last America hating one of them :grr:

Why can't these numbskulls get it through their heads that she lost because she couldn't campaign if her life depended on it?

She was a terrible candidate. She ran a sloppy campaign.

Ummmm, yes.

the republicans. everyone takes their turn. forget he did a great honest job and won the hearts and minds of ZILLIONS of people. throw that out. some old gal says its 'our turn'. undemocratic idiots.

RV, an old gal with a beef too. I thought I lived in a democracy. silly me.

editted for calmer thoughts. :)

"Take a number."

:rofl:

Sexism is a systemic societal bias against women. Because there is no systemic societal bias against men, there's no such beast as "reverse sexism". The same goes for any other reverse -ism.

There are however false claims of victimization and bad voting choices based on identity, single issues, etc. And the more extreme Hillaryites seem to have mastered those false claims and bad choices.

So instead of calling it "sexist", I'm going to go with wrong.

Yeah, wrong.

As in: It is wrong to say that women should vote for a woman just because she's a woman.

Care to disagree?

oh wait, that's not true either.

She hasn't had entire states vote against her because of her gender.

Please someone, enlighten me of this "Hillarylogic"

why wouldn't one assume that rampant sexism, which should be worse in the non-active Democratic part of the electorate, would also deny her the general election.

she's "the most electable".

In the universe of courting the righteous indignation based on dubious logic vote, everyone's a-out-ta-git-her.

:popcorn:

Take away any shred of common sense, take away every mathematics rule you ever learned, take away any logical explanation you can come up using conventional thought processes. NOW you have a good grip on life in Hillarlyland.

"she cannot separate her gender from her last name"...sure she could, if it had benefitted her. This is all she has left now, so she and her surrogates are using it.

that stinks of racist sexism... first time I have seen it used dualy.

:sarcasm:

So she played the race card the sexism card to prevent Obama from getting the nomination in March.

Everyone and everything is at fault except for hillary.

too stupid to know we're supposed to be the victim. :eyes:

At a mere 30 years old.. i guess I thought that perhaps all of the Women's Lib fighting done before me was done so that I could make a CHOICE. Evidently not - i'm suppose to fall in line and vote for what my elder female counterparts tell me is good for me. How could a black man possibly be more benificial to me then a white female? I know i'm an idiot.. what with all of the great "benifit the white female" policies Clinton has lined up once she gets in office.

Wait- where was that list of policies again.. i could have sworn I saw it somewhere.... oh nevermind. It doesn't exist.

I didn't live through the feminist movement with hope in my heart for it to turn out like this. these old bags haven't got a clue.

editted after cooling off :)

:yourock: Yours is the feminist view I love. :loveya:

way back when for the choice you have today. I used that same choice last Friday when I dropped off my paper ballot, w/a filled out oval next to Obama's name.

Btw, no thanks needed.

I think you and my 54 year old mother would get along great... she did the same thing. Fought like hell in the 60's & 70's for Women's lib..burned bra's.. and used all of that to vote for Obama!

Thanks for giving me the choice! ;)

Get with the program, little sister.;)

Hillary supporters that can't think for themselves.

White women voters held a gun to my head I was forced, yes forced, I say, to consider voting for Obama.

And the KoolAid IV dripping into my veins has kept me locked into this mantra of "GOBAMA."

If only I had free will to consider the one and only candidate who is for us white women!

And Hillary is So Down with it, ain't she? I've got a feeling that she's skimming from both sides, getting a nice pile of money from the Right Wing, while getting Obama's folks to pay off any debts for sending a pack of pitbulls after him to nip at his heels the whole way..

Its just possible she's WAY Scummier than people may realize..

Good call my friend :)

Brilliant!

how fucking annoying to try to base your campaign on whether or not you have a vagina. I detested it when the right wing talked about the "vagina vote" and I detest it when I read it from a Hillary supporter.

"Women comprise more than 50 percent of the electorate and if we were fully committed to a single candidate, we could determine the outcome of any office in the country. It is our turn."

Come gather 'round and vote for whoever your sisters vote for. DON'T look at the issues! DON'T assess a candidate's policies! DON'T be foolish enough to base your vote on what YOU THINK!

STOP LETTING MEN tell you what to do! Let OTHER WOMEN tell you what to do instead!

What could POSSIBLY be more liberating than THAT!?!

The irony is making my eyeballs throb, Nance.

I have faith that most women are actually smarter than to let themselves fall for such manipulation.

- as

So much for running on merit....

I'm supposedly Ms. Clinton's base: white, over 50, and female. But she lost me. The negative campaigning, her refusal to admit she's been wrong on Iraq, the cozying up to lobbyists, her reversal on Florida and Michigan when it suited her, and the fuzzy arithmatic - please, Senator Clinton: don't confirm that godsawful stereotype that woman are bad at math!

Senator Obama wasn't my first choice, and frankly I don't see a heckuva lot of difference between his platform and Senator Clinton's. But he's starting to look better every day.

And if through some unforeseen chance, Obama doesn't get the nod, I'll still vote for Clinton. Beating McSame is just too goddamned important. But that clothespin is getting a lot larger.

No, you got that wrong -- HILLARY CLINTON discounted the ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC
BASE and ran a general election campaign during the early part of this
primary, ASSUMING THAT THE BASE HAS NOWHERE ELSE TO GO. I was an Edwards
supporter, but her disrespect of the base -- backed up by her recorded
derogatory comments about MoveOn.org -- was one reason I opted for Obama
after Edwards exited the race.

This is a democracy... people get to vote the way they want, for whatever reason they want. I know that the views expressed in this e-mail are deeply and sincerely held by many women (and some men) who watched the women's movement unfold in the 60s and 70s (and earlier).

I disagree strongly with anyone who says that Obama's campaign is sexist, or that people who decide to vote for Obama are voting against Hillary because they're sexist. But I do sympathize with those who got their hopes up so high when they saw that a woman was a leading contender for the most important job in the world, when less than 100 years ago women were being jeered, mocked, and put in prison for demonstrating for the right to vote, and when fifty years ago (or less) it was standard operating procedure for companies to automatically lay women off when they got married.

We've come a long way as a country, and the hope of older liberal and radical women, in particular, that they'd live to see a woman break that ultimate political barrier must have been transcendent.

because they forgot what the feminists wanted all along: the freedom to do what they believed in. Unfortunately for these asses, no one believes in hillary. nothing in that assinine email speaks to the feminism I was a part of from the sixties forward. nothing.

:sarcasm:

n/t

even discussing the nature of gender in the race. There was an article about this in the NY Times the other day. She is no Gloria Steinem. Keep your powder dry.

And after female Hillary supporters enable McAsswipe... they will whine about the loss of Roe v Wade and blame Obama.

Some are willing to set us back 40 years to prove their whiny piss-ass point. But they will NEVER accept the blame. Its the Clinton way.

I don't support Clinton, but I find this suspicious. It's not as if Clinton herself wrote it. A dear friend of mine who voted for Clinton in the primaries here (she is 61 years old and a true feminist) thinks it's past time for Clinton to drop out. She's excited about the Obama campaign.

But I hate this kind of sketchy media gossip. We don't know the source.

Just to create chaos.

Hillary has said plenty already (including today) to jack up the tension, but the words came out of her mouth.

We should not react until we know where this came from.

"Senator Clinton was never allowed to make her own case. The grey eminence....."

hillary`s husband and mark penn did more harm to her than the msm and obama`s so called insults combined. the problem is her judgement on what was the right course to follow...that course was the wrong one.

For me as a female, playing the victim card is not an option.

Address the stinkers assertively and move on. These people will die as victims instead of empowered and powerful females and yes I say this as someone who has been brutally victimized due to sexism.

Some women matter, some women don't. Disappointed middle-aged feminists matter; women trying to escape threatened "obliteration" in the Middle East don't.

Good fucking grief.

support a president who was slobbering to invade another country and blow tens of thousands of its girls and women to shreds (oh, yeah, and lots of its boys and men) just to prove that she had the BALLS for her presidential run?

Yeah, no thanks.

order to illustrate what a fearsom leader she would be. No thanks, I'll take the dude who at least tries to sit down and talk to folks first. If Obama were a woman he'd be perfect, but since he's not I'm going to have to vote for the man. I hope this doesn't mean I can't be a feminist anymore.

what the KKK just did of Obama:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/377721/

They could learn something.

They are trying to piss off women by making believe they are being pissed on by the press, by Obama, and by some nefarious DNC insiders.

What poppycock. What faux outrage. Ferraro is the one they chose to put out front of this farce. Or she volunteered.

there's no need to settle for second-best just because Clinton is a woman.

There's also no need to take the huge risk of losing the GE just because some folks want Obama.

She'd bring a cavalcade of Repubes out to vote just to stop her. Think locusts. Plus keep in mind that Obama isn't running the type of campaign that the Pukes will run. They will use it all. Monica anyone? It'll be awful.

I will vote for her mind you, but stop saying she's the stronger candidate, that remains to be seen.

There's no reason to settle for second best just because Obama is an African-American.

There's also no need to take the huge risk of losing the GE just because some folks want Clinton.


Shallow arguments not even remotely based on the real issues surrounding this election cycle. That's what's been so exhausting about this primary.

"I actually didn't vote for Obama," said Tita Compere, 25, who spent 10 hours Saturday volunteering for Clinton's campaign. But Compere was impressed by the crowd's diversity, something she felt was lacking in Clinton's televised Friday night event. "It was just 40-year-old white women," she said.

Maybe that's part of Hillary's problem.

...and the rest of us too.

And they claim to be feminists? Yet they'll give the presidency to McCain just so they can whine and act like spoiled children who didn't get their way. That's how little women's rights actually mean to them. Dumbasses.

:(

Hillary is a very bitter woman, isn't she? Too bad she BELIEVED all those pesky BOYZZZ who set this whole thing up for her, and told her she would be a shoo-in..:rofl:

She's got grit, though,. she's going down tossing molotov cocktails, even though SHE'S the one in flames :rofl:

This smells like a turd blossom.

What a bunch of B.S.!

Hillary's problem is NOT her gender. How many times does this have to be spelled out? Her problem is "her". She's not the best woman for this job!

Yes, sexism exists; I've dealt with it over and over again. BUT - I refuse to be a victim to it and I refuse to allow myself to become bitter and vindictive because of it.

GET OVER IT LADIES.

Power to the women people. :toast:

:toast:

But this letter looks more like it's about standing up than cowering in a corner.

This is what the traditional powers fear more than anything. Members of the largest voting block attempting to form a coalition.

only guarantees you the opportunity. It doesn't mean that you're going to win.

If these old bags go to the polls and vote against Obama in the GE, and Obama loses, their cause will be set back 50 years -- or don't they care?

Idiots.

Wouldn't it be an irony if women used their hard-won right to vote in the very way that opponents of women's suffrage predicted they would -- hysterically and emotionally instead of rationally?

What's the point?

Your MAD and that makes me GLAD!

:eyes:

They'd vote for the same Hillary Clinton who exploited hundreds of thousands of underpaid women workers at Wal Mart? Clinton is just another corporate candidate, nothing more then that.

And my smellin' salts? I swear I do feel the vapours coming on! I fear that no one told me the Nineteenth Amendment did not pass! All of this time I should not have been votin'! I declare... I did not know that I was a second class citizen with no equal rights! I did not know that I had no voice in the public square. I'm shocked to learn that my educational achievements, work achievements, civic responsibilities, and the raising of my children have been not of my own doing. Oh, my! I've been so duped into thinking that I had control of my own destiny...my, my, my...what shall I do? No decision I make is of merit. My, my, my. Oh, dear.

My salts! My salts!

Just like Chicago!

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That's what it read like - a diary entry by a broken hearted teenager, wailing over not getting the lover she wanted.

That's absurd - they want to make a mockery of democracy!

Sexism exists, obviously. But it's not the reason Hillary lost.

How about to my BUTT!?

You lost. You LOST. You weren't cheated. It wasn't sexism. You fucking LOST.

That so many people can act like this makes me want to leave this fucking country. Then again, that so many people voted for George Dubby Bush TWICE makes me want to leave this fucking country. I'm so fucking sick of the whole fucking mess and I'm fucking sick of everybody involved in it.

if you're not with us you're against us argument, just like Bush uses.

The first problem with this argument is that it's a false dichotomy, a false premise. The argument can be discounted at that point as one can't build an argument on a false premise.

GK

What am I saying? Of course they won't.

The party's redefining itself. Those who can't get with it are welcome to leave.

Hillary Clinton signed the same agreement as every other candidate regarding Florida and Michigan, now wants to back out of the agreements she signed, and you accuse ANYONE else of cheating?!? Kiss my White Irish ass. The sooner Bill and Hillary both fade into oblivion the better. I don't know who I hate more, her or her supporters.

"That Hillary Clinton is the most qualified candidate, and that she is being cheated out of the nomination by the good old boys network, the DNC and the Mainstream Media."

I consider myself a fairly radical feminist. And I think this is ridiculous. I despise Hillary, and will never vote for her. It has nothiing to do with her being a woman, and everything to do with her cynical IWR vote, and the similarly duplicitous behavoir, devoid of real moral courage, she has shown increasingly since then, and throughout this campaign.

I don't care whether the president is a woman. Nor do I care whether the president is black, brown, or a Martian. All I care about is whether the president will really protect and defend the Constitution and our constitutional rights as Americans. Secondary to that, I look at personal integrity. Obama has slightly more than Clinton, who, as far as I can tell, has none. Like most other members of Congress.

$0.02

Does anyone really feel pressure from a radio station? Unless they can broadcast taser attacks, it's just air.

I'm voting the way I vote because someone on the radio said I must. Right.

:wtf:

I doubt any campaign would officially put out something this obvious.

Nothing about the campaign. And after that nasty letter her rich supporters sent threatening the DNC... this doesnt seem fishy to me at all.

Fuck em'. Fuck em all. I wouldn't piss on anyone of these deluded harpies if they were on fire.

and sometimes wiser, is that they will eventually figure out ways make you use your own emotions against yourself. I think it's more of heredity / evolutionary trait rather than something they consciously attempt.

Be cool with it all, we will eventually be able to nudge them along :-)