Why didn't HRC run in 2004? nt - Democratic Underground

CatsDogsBabies

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Tue May-20-08 08:03 PM
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Why didn't HRC run in 2004? nt

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LisaM

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Tue May-20-08 08:04 PM
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1. Well she had promised to serve out her first Senate term and did.

Apparently Obama made the same promise.

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Tom Rinaldo

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Tue May-20-08 08:05 PM
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2. When she ran for Senate in 2004 she promised NY's voters...

...that she would finish her full term if they elected her.

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Emit

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Tue May-20-08 08:17 PM
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3. Clinton apparently flirted with running ...rumor has it, Mark Penn polled for her

Edited on Tue May-20-08 08:25 PM by Emit

According to this source:

~snip~

Hillary Clinton is viewed through the lens of her larger ambition—and ambition is definitely there. Though she has always downplayed the issue, Clinton apparently flirted with running for the presidency in the 2004 election. According to one insider, in 2003 Mark Penn had created a unit within the polling firm of Penn, Schoen & Berland so clandestine that most of the staff didn’t even know it existed. It operated in a room whose computers had been disconnected from the company’s network. Penn polled to find out whether Clinton could break her pledge to serve a full term in the Senate and still maintain enough political viability to run for president. (Penn wouldn’t confirm—or deny—this episode, and said he believed that “at no time was she ever leaning in that direction.”) Ultimately, of course, she chose not to. But she must have been tempted. “Some very important people were coming to her on bended knee asking her to run,” a close friend of Clinton’s told me. “That was the phrase she used: ‘on bended knee.’”

~snip~

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200611/green-hillary/11

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global1

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Tue May-20-08 08:17 PM
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4. The Clinton's And The Bush's Had An Agreement And Jr. Was Entitled To......

the second term his daddy didn't get. Then it's Hilliary's turn in 2008. And Jeb again in 2016. And Chelsea in 2024. etc, etc, etc.

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BringBigDogBack

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Tue May-20-08 08:20 PM
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5. Bingo.

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Emit

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Tue May-20-08 08:24 PM
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8. the 'oligarchical double helix'

'oligarchical double helix'

Mo Rocca:

Suddenly - and FINALLY - people are talking about the problem of presidential dynasties here in America. The possibility of Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton (up to 28 years of 2-family rule) is looming with Hillary on the rise. (Add to that 8 run-up years of Bush the Father as VP to Reagan.)

I hate to sound like a smarty pants. But why not? Here is a commentary I taped for CBS Sunday Morning a year and a half ago on this subject. (Hence the references to Jeb Bush as candidate.) ...

Video at link
http://news.aol.com/newsbloggers/2007/09/28/bush-clinton-bush-clinton-who-needs-elections /

Also on You Tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr0TkxReKuk

"... Let's widen the gene pool..."

"... and in glorious revolution, a House of Republocrats rule indefinitely."

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thereismore

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Tue May-20-08 08:46 PM
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15. I am a little sickened. nt

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Occam Bandage

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Tue May-20-08 08:21 PM
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6. Realistically? Because 2004 didn't look like a good year for the Dems, while 2008 does. She picked

her battle. Pity Obama got in the way.

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zbdent

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Tue May-20-08 08:23 PM
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7. If she broke her promise, the RW media would have been all over her like

a drunken Republican on a small boy ...

Besides, Repukes have been claiming that she'd been running for President since she met Bill ...

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nsd

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Tue May-20-08 08:25 PM
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9. 2004 looked like a tought fight for Democrats. 2008 seems much more promising. /nt

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goldcanyonaz

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Tue May-20-08 08:26 PM
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10. Cuz, Kerry cried

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Justitia

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Tue May-20-08 08:32 PM
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13. The only person I saw crying on teevee was Hillary Clinton.

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goldcanyonaz

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Tue May-20-08 08:34 PM
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14. kerry skanked my money to count OH votes, he is a fucker.

Many here would agree.

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Justitia

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Tue May-20-08 10:49 PM
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16. What does that have to do with Senator Spoiler?

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Secret_Society

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Tue May-20-08 08:28 PM
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11. Promised to finish first term and maybe gain some experience

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tritsofme

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Tue May-20-08 08:31 PM
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12. Hillary, like Senator Obama, made a pledge to the voters in her state that she would serve

Edited on Tue May-20-08 08:31 PM by tritsofme

them in the Senate for a full term.

She made no such assurance in 2006 while running for reelection.

Broken promises are apparently part of the new politics of change.

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