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housewolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:22 PM Original message |
Wow, David Gergen: Hillary should say "If you're going to vote for me because of his race I don't |
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Mooney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. She SHOULD say that, |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. Think about it. She just might say it. She has been for racial equality since I was a young woman. |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. She'd accept it. It won't be offered, however. |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. We're 40+ states too late for her to say that. |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
47. Don't hold your breath! She didn't castigate Ferraro's racist drivvle..... |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
84. Hillary can still help unite the party from afar. She doesn't have to be on |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. Watch your back David. I heard there is a bus circling around the parking lot. |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. But then she would have to think about the country, not just herself. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. Never mind that, I want McCAIN to be forced to say that |
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grannylib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. Wow! Gergen said that??? He's right, and I hope she does. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
6. LOL - yeah, but she'd be lying (not that it'd be new to her). -eom |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. Edwards said that but Clinton never has and she wont. |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. Stop it. If you were having a conversation with her, I KNOW she would say it. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. So she would say it privately but not publicly? nt |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. My guess is she would say it BOTH WAYS if it comes down to it. |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. It's BEEN "down to it" for a month. What's she waiting for? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Then why hasn't she said it? She's had plenty of time. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. So BOTH WAYS means ................. shit |
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Ddan (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. Didn't she have the chance to say that after the SNL skit last week? |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #29 |
87. wv passed. kentucky passed. nothing. she's been courting rednecks |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. BWAHAHAHA! |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. I clean up OK? Housekeeping, Housekeeping |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
80. She has been fanning the race and sex issues not trying to put them out. |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
59. I'm sorry. You people are ferocious in your hatred for Hillary. |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. there is a difference, as I'm sure you know, |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Looks like Obama got to a whole lot of white folks here in Oregon! |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. that really doesn't answer what i posted |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. It kind of blows through the whole idea that "many/most/all whites will vote only for whites" and |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Again, you fail to address my point |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
8. Bold statement. |
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justgamma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
9. Do you remember when Edwards said |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. Wow. I didn't know about that. That's an impressive, principled stance |
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Mooney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. I didn't know that either. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
76. From An Impressive, Principled Man... Too Many Times I Have Thought... |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
74. Yes I remember that. |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
10. She should, but she won't. nt |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. Damn right she should but she won't now |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. Whoaa! Good on Gergen! She won't, of course. She intends to claw her way to the nomination |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
13. I wish they'd give David Gergen a show |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
42. amen, he is sensible and intelligent, they are bubble heads |
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Abacus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
54. Me too; |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
14. But.... that would defeat the whole strategy. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
15. k&r (nt) |
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Mme. Defarge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
16. That was stunning! |
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bkcc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
17. He's right. She should. |
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ErinBerin84 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
18. Gergen is one of the most reasonable people on tv. |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Agreed. He's quite objective. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. A smart, principled journalist? |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
65. For someone who worked for the Clintons and Republicans, he's surprisingly undickish |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Staphylococcus?? |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. You know: microscopic, virulent. Actually it's been used here before - |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Even better! |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. I shun exposure to his strain, so I couldn't say for certain what it takes to clear it up |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
20. Bingo! Instead she brags about it, embraces them, and further undermines Obama |
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TTUBatfan2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
22. Finally! |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
24. Fair enough. If HE will say "If you're going to vote for me because |
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TTUBatfan2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
46. Please tell me you did not just compare |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
26. Gee. Sounds like something a Democrat would say. |
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angee_is_mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
28. Truth to Power!!! |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
30. Little LATE for that, no? |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. She never said it in Pennsylvania, West Virginia or Kentucky |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. It's a disclaimer she could make, but no one would believe - not at this late hour |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
56. Maybe after Puerto Rico |
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gabby garcia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
33. never gonna happen... |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
35. If she remains silent on this, it implies tacit approval of the racism |
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NJObamaWoman (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. implies? Her campaign has ran on that. Its the camp that loudly prclaimed that they had |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
38. She should, but she won't. She's too busy courting them for her popular vote totals. |
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NJObamaWoman (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
45. Should have said it back in Nevada when her pollster said that Latinos won't vote for a black |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
49. if she did that.. |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
50. Finally, someone said it. I think if Hillary were stronger morally she would say so. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. And of course it doesn't count if she says it *AFTER* the fact. |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
53. I agree. And Obama should say, "If you're going to vote for me because of her gender, |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. (shrug) Not like there's an issue with that happening, but sure - why not? |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. There sure is an issue with that happening. They just don't do exit polling on it. nt |
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TTUBatfan2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. 60% of the Democratic primary electorate is female... |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. There are women who won't vote for a woman because of gender. It's not just men. nt |
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TTUBatfan2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. That is true... |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. There are plenty of white people who have legitimate |
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TTUBatfan2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Of course. |
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foo_bar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
58. she's no Ross Perot |
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hokies4ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
61. He also said she should address the Rev. Wright issue |
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ribrepin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
62. I switched from MSNBC because they let Pat Buchanan on to spew |
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housewolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #62 |
85. Yeah... I only heard Gergen because I switched off Pat Buchanan |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
63. Her surrogates have openly stated that SHE WILL NOT SAY THIS because she wants any vote she can get. |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
64. A little to CONVENIENT a time to suggest that --- THE RACIST STATES HAVE JUST FINISHED VOTING |
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wvbygod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #64 |
86. there are no racist states |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #86 |
89. OK. Sorry for the short-hand |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
82. Great idea, |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
88. Hillary taking a stand against RACISM!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH |
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wowimthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
90. Thank God! A pundit used some level-headed thinking. Thank you! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
91. HRC considers herself "political royalty." She doesn't have a gracious bone in her body. eom |
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milkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
92. It would be too late now. Should've said it before WV and KY. |
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