New Metric: Who has won the most "better" states?

I found myself asking myself, Which candidate has won the better states? So I crunched the numbers.

(Methodology: I divided the 50 states into two groups of 25--"better" and "less good"; the criteria I used were based on my own subjective life experiences. I excluded DC because its voters, not being Appalachian, should not be taken too seriously. I gave TX to both Obama and Clinton, since I couldn't quite figure out who won. I gave Obama both MT and SD, for the obvious reason that he will win them. I excluded Puerto Rico since it's an American tradition to exclude Puerto Rico. I gave FL and MI to Hillary because I believe in fairy tales.)


The results were stunning: Obama has won BOTH more "better" states AND more "less good" states than Hillary. But, interestingly, the race is much closer (a squeaker, in fact) in the "less good" states than in the "better" states.

Here's the hard data:


BETTER STATES: Obama wins 16-10.

Oregon O
Wash O
Mont O
Idaho O
Wyoming O
Utah O
New Mexico C
California C
Nevada C
Colorado C
Texas C/O
Minnesota O
Louisiana O
Massachusetts C
Tennessee C
Wisconsin O
North Carolina O
Pennsylvania C
Virginia O
New York C
Connecticut C
Vermont O
Maine O
Alaska O
Hawaii O


LESS GOOD STATES: Obama wins 13-12

Georgia O
Arizona C
Oklahoma C
Kansas O
Nebraska O
South Dakota O
North Dakota O
Iowa O
Missouri O
Arkansas C
Mississippi O
Alabama O
Florida C
Kentucky C
Illinois O
Michigan C
Indiana C
South Carolina O
West Virginia C
Ohio C
Maryland O
Delaware O
New Jersey C
Rhode Island C
New Hampshire C

but I'm sure they'll find a way in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

:P

:rofl:

Oregon being the best

Clearly Nevada is a less good state, and Arizona, New Hampshire, and South Carolina are better states.

Rhode Island sucks by any metric. :shrug:

I recently spent a week at the Grand Canyon with my son and his 5th grade class. It was tremendously wonderful. But Phoenix seemed distressing, our bus driver on the trip to Glen Canyon talked way too much, and--here's the clicher--Continental Airlines sent my luggage to Denver, then held it back in Phoenix for 3 days before finally delivering it to me at the Grand Canyon, after allotting me a measly $100 bucks to buy crappy tourist jackets to keep warm while awaiting my luggage.

New Hampshire gave us the horror of Bush in 2000.

South Carolina: Susan Smith


Nevada: I'm talking the wild mustang country of Northern Nevada. The rest sucks.

Can't we forgive and forget?

And, FWIW, it was those damn Nader voters who gave Bush NH and thus gave US Bush. (Yeah, I'm still pissed.)

so would consider switching NH in exchange for Wisconsin.

The NH is much better than the VT side, and hands down is much better than the part that runs through CT.

WI has given us Russ Feingold though.

you do have the better side of the river. I'll also give you parts of the Whites as superior. Other than that, let's face it: Vermont, prettier in general, better politics, cooler major "city".

People who say "New Hampshireite" are the same ones who say CONN-cord, when any real, lapel-flag-wearing, red blooded American knows it's Conk-uhd.

is a whole 'nother thread and could go all night. :P

then I'm all for it!

These will be Democratic in November. That's 16/25, or 64% of the better states.

Oregon O
Wash O
New Mexico C
California C
Nevada C
Colorado C
Minnesota O
Massachusetts C
Wisconsin O
Pennsylvania C
Virginia O
New York C
Connecticut C
Vermont O
Maine O
Hawaii O

Cheers

good one. :hi:

What a witty bunch we have here. :rofl:

Thank you.

I must say that I'm surprised that more than a few DUers took this seriously.

You mean territories don't get electoral votes... wow tradition..

Still, I keep trying to figure out what makes states good or not...

and NJ in the less good states. I have lived in both and there is no way I would classiy them that way. I also don't think I would put Maryland in the less good states.

that it doesn't totally suck. I drove through NJ once and it sucked.

(I'm kidding: I'm driven through it dozens of times, at it has always sucked.)


(really just kidding this time: I did check out the Pine Barrens and it was cool--and I know that New Jersey has probably more bears per square mile than any other state. So I would be willing to swith NJ and Wisconsin.)

it is okay in the good states. I live in NJ now and really like it.

I did reflect a great deal on whether Utah should be "better" or "less good." In the end, I placed more weight on stunning physical geography than on cultural/political progressivism. But, since NJ probably does deserve a spot (since I once saw George Jones perform at a relatively small venue in Hoboken or Hackensack--can't remember which), I'd be willing to swap Utah and NJ.

And Ohio's 20 electoral votes.

Sounds like a great plan for Obama to win the presidency!!!

Doesn't that make my home state that much better?

CT used to be my home state too. I guess that makes it 17-9.

Too late for me to edit. I humbly apologize for the error.

She only squeeked by, thanks to Rush Limbaugh in:
TX, IN, PA, OH, RI..

Michigan was a cheater state she's trying to claim, when 45% showed up to vote in a non-election just to vote AGAINST her

In CA she swooped in and banked 1/3 to 1/2 of the of the total vote, via early/absentee votes before anyone even know who Obama was.

She ALMOST lost NH

Racists & Rushbots fueled her "HUGH" wins in Wv & KY