It's time to STOP threatening to vote republican

Its time to STOP working against the nominee
Its time to STOP making baseless charges
Its time to STOP reissuing knowingly false data, benchmarks, milestones, criteria: KNOWINGLY FALSE ones
Its time to STOP playing the victim
Its time to STOP disrupting the real business of the party: the General Election
Its time to STOP organized trolling


it IS time to START mending fences
it IS time to START figuring out where you fit in for the general
it IS time to START being a loyal democrat again
it IS time to START working towards UNITY
it IS time to START having useful discourse


it IS time to START. NOW.

I got over it. Can you?

but does smack of projection

They're republicans

They're racist

They love the war and the millions of lives lost

They love high gas and food prices

They love global warming

They love people losing their jobs, pensions and their homes

Am I missing anything?

I'm just saying certain behaviours are not productive and should stop.

Why they think McCain would be better for the country than Obama. There's really none that I can think of.

They are vindictive to the point of destroying all women's choice because they are mad they ran the wrong woman to be the first woman president.

......even if Hillary would have won it (no, it's no longer possible that she might) I would grit my teeth and vote for her.
She would be a million times better than McDumbass. My Yorkie would be better (and probably have a better grasp on the issues, too).
All this 'I'll vote McCain or stay home' crap is ridiculous - think of what you're doing! Do you really want to subject this Nation to 4 more years of Hell, kill more troops, have more rights disappeared, shred the Constitution just a bit more, have Gas prices go even higher, maybe see food riots because people cannot afford to buy groceries any longer, have no changes in Health care and Education (except for the worse), more record foreclosures, bigger recession, etc, etc - just to prove a damn point? Do you really wanna cut of your nose to spite your face just because your Candidate didn't win?

Think, folks!

Democrats voting for McCain is like letting the air out of your tires because they are low.

voting Republican.

Flame bait.

that their is no way in Hell I will ever vote for Obama, even if it's a lie. It's what they deserve after spewing their hatred of Clinton, Race baiting her to win a primaries, ect... Thing will change after we have a nominee, until then you can expect that the "I will not vote for Obama" poll to keep rising. A little fear of losing might just be what the doctor ordered for the Obama campaign.

I'm curious what such an action: lying to pollsters, actually accomplishes?

Obama supporters trying to reach out to us instead of insult us for our CHOICE, so I would be happy to see that number get up to 60% if it would make the Obama supporters think twice about some of the things they have said. Also lying to pollsters is a time honored tradition. Also it depends on what polls you lie about. I would never lie about my opinion on the war, or Shurb, but would I lie in a primary poll, you betcha I would especially since I see daily lies posted by Obama supporters, and daily lies being spread by his surrogates on TV. They don't have a problem with lying to win, then neither do I.

so, it accomplishes compliance from Obama to give you what you want (whatever that is)?
Still not sure how your anonymous lie to a pollster actually accomplishes that.

but hey, it's a free country. If you want to actively work against the nominee, you're free to do that, too.

just don't call yourself a democrat.

I am every bit the Democrat you are and your willingness to say I am not one is a perfect example of why Clinton supporters are so pissed off. Are the lies that Obama surrogates have propagated O.K. with you, because they do it every day.

how is that not working against a democrat?

I don't need to "lie" about you when you so openly out yourself like this.

show me where I have lied, at all. You can't do it, because I haven't.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6027329#6027393

"Candidates do have demographic stats to work with, HOWEVER, to use it as a

rallying point is whipping up the racist support intentionally.

when the demographics become your policy points, its a sad day for the party."

Clinton did not use demographics as a rallying point in whipping up racist support. That's just the way the Obama camp is trying to explain why they lost WV, and KY. Of coarse you believe she did, so you may not think this is a lie. But isn't accusing a fellow Democrat being a racist just as bad if not worse than lying to a pollster to make a point?

its kinda hard to lie about my own opinion, which by the way, I still stand behind as the way I view that situation.

and no, I don't think me saying my honest opinion on this board is worse than lying to a pollster to make a point.


you lack perspective, and apparently, integrity.

Just like I thought. Another Obama supporter that thinks "we" are dirty and "they" are clean, all the while asking for unity. LoL!

after you openly admitted you would lie to a pollster to "punish" Obama.

you just earned a permanent ticket to my ignore list.

I AM asking for Unity == you insist on refusing that request. IMHO, that makes you something other than a democrat.

plomk.

Glad to make the ignore list of another asshole for Obama.

what your definition of "unity" is?

Is unity the cessation of any criticism of your candidate while you continue to denigrate mine?

Or is unity the recognition that the supporters of Senator Clinton have just as much of a right to our opinions as you have to yours?

From reading the OP, and your responses to this sub thread, it appears it is the former.

I have, time and time again, stated that, IF and WHEN Senator Obama is the official nominee, not only will I vote for him, but I will work for him as well. I call that unity. You obviously do not.

your last line I agree with, I mean.

there is a difference between criticism and openly threatening to vote republican.

And promising to lie to pollsters to punish Obama IF he is the nominee is not unity, that's spite.

surely you can tell the difference?

and I would point out that I was not forbidding opinions, it was your compatriot who was accusing ME of lying for having an opinion.

sorry, but you're intentionally mischaracterzing that interchange.

Most of us kinda know it is.

Good job! :thumbsup:

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Though I do like that one, I'm going to steal it.

FYI, they are more of a commentary and reflection on the posts I read here by her fans and detractors than about her. ;)

Is that your pic? I like it! :)

I am a Kucinich supporter, by the way, and an equal opportunity offender. :D

Because the subtext indicates that Clinton supporters are exclusively culpable of these crimes. It isn't so. Some of us have behaved poorly.

It is time to heal, and it's also time to apologize.

I thought the "working towards unity" was a clue.

expect Green recruitment to sky rocket and AA support to diminish

there's nothing for it...

I wouldn't advocate it here... but I couldn't blame them.

It would help the GOP less directly than some Kentuckians voting against Obama... but probably more significantly.

is either a liar or a complete idiot

in response to this?

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6061693#6061774

Thank you.

that's sufficient. I am not going to go around posting in every thread. You're welcome to quote this thread and link it, if you like.