Barbara Boxer: "Barack Obama will pick whomever he wants (for VP)."

Is there an historical example you have in mind where the convention voted against the candidate's choice of running mate?

LBJ was not JFK's pick, the deal was worked out prior to the convention. Despite objections from JFK and his staff.

once Johnson accepted (to the surprise of some) then he was Kennedy's choice and the convention vote confirming this was merely a formality.

Kennedy did not propose another choice (like Humphrey or somebody) that was then overturned by convention vote in Johnson's favor.

So, like Kennedy, Obama might feel his hand is forced by political expediency to make an offer. But that would still be his choice.

to do it, just like they have rooked Obama into this co-fundraising event, where Hillary brings nothing to the table, Obama brings everything, and Hillary siphons off what she wants from the top by inflating her campaign expenses for the event.

;)

She's also been a champion on protecting our environmental and women's rights. She would woo back many Clinton voters.

got a link for that statement you just made about the Ohio electors in 2004?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/7/11846/55861

Challenging Ohio's electors: what it meant

Fri Jan 07, 2005 at 08:08:46 AM PDT

Yesterday was a historic day, the first time since 1877 that there was a challenge to the certification of electors in congress. Many people worked very hard to see that this challenge occurred with a senator signed on--to prevent a replay of the disgraceful day in 2001 when members of the Congressional Black Caucus were unable to get one senator to join in their objection.


It was a very emotional moment to watch the scene play out differently yesterday..."Has a senator signed the objection?" "Yes." Because the objection was signed by both a representative and a senator, the certification of the electors was interrupted, and members of the Senate and the House of Representatives retired to separate chambers to debate the challenge. The consistent theme of the individuals challenging Ohio's electors (as you will see in Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones' speech below) was that they did not expect to see Bush's Ohio win overturned.

<snip>

Mr. Speaker and ladies and gentlemen. I, Stephane Tubbs Jones, a Representative from the state of Ohio, and Senator Barbara Boxer, a Senator from California, have objected to the counting of electoral votes of the state of Ohio on the grounds that they were not, under all the known circumstances, regularly given.

I thank God that I have a senator joining me in this objection. And I appreciate Senator Boxer's willingness to listen to the plight of hundreds and even thousands of Ohio voters, that, for a variety of reasons, were denied the right to vote.

Not that I expect that to happen. However, if it did I'd be a happy voter.

And that is, the Gropenator gets to pick her replacement. :(

The ticket would bring a new face to the Democratic Party. I still favor that one slightly over Bill Richardson or Jim Webb, though I think any of these three would be a winning ticket.

No, he got to pick the person he thought would help him win in November and that is Obama's right too. If the Clinton's don't like it--tough.

:applause:

Hillary got more votes then Obama, and has more experience in national politics then the unknown Obama. The VP spot will be a good training site for the rookie Obama.
I dont believe that the Democratic Party will reject the opinion of the majority of its voters--and I include Florida and Michigan.

Because the poster is in a dream world and makes no sense.

edited to add.

get real. She's toast. Done. Finished. As in stick a fork in her.

"would you like fries with that?'

You know that, right? That the ONLY way that Senator Clinton has more votes than Senator Obama, is when you and her campaign and other supporters EXCLUDE 4 caucus states - IOWA, NEVADA, WASHINGTON AND MAINE.

FOUR WHOLE STATES' worth of voters being disenfranchised by the "Clinton popular vote method" of counting, yet the Clinton campaign manages to count the two states that don't count.

Why do you hate voters in IA, NV, WA and ME??

Go ahead. Get a pencil. I double-dog dare you! Count ALL the votes, INCLUDING ALL THE CAUCUS STATES, and MI and FL, and you'll see that Clinton is still far, far behind in votes.

The popular vote argument doesn't work because of caucus states.

But nice try.

And welcome back.

Hillary and Obama in michigan by definition, (one of them was not on the ballot). You can't decide what is going against the will of the voters by the superdelegates deciding it to obama, when you don't know the relative number of people who WANTED obama in Michigan was, because he wasn't on the ballot (regardless of the reason for it, it's something that you do not know)

I'm sure you now regret wasting that first post way back when. You could have been at 100% right now. Such is hindsight.

"Stay the course until the job is done!" I imagine you're rather familiar with that mindset though. :rofl:

We can hear you.

They've been saving this account since 2005 and this is the best they've been able to come up with since then. Poor little thing. Can you imagine all the times they wanted to jump into the fray but their brain just couldn't come up with anything witty or snarky enough? The urge to disrupt was no doubt causing their fingers to itch with desire. However, their brain refused to provide them with the proper material. Then after all that time THIS is what they finally settle on. Like I said, poor little thing.

with another moniker??

For all I know they do. :shrug:

:yoiks: :crazy:

Seems rather suspicious to me.

Rp

Why did he have to interrupt her coronation with his message of hope? :rofl:

:sarcasm:

As I recall it, he wanted to pick Gephardt, but was pressured into choosing John Edwards.

Got a link to Kerry's statement about Gephardt?

and second of all, I said, "as I recall". Geesh. I asked a question; you put your interpretation on it.

Kerry wasn't pressured into accepting Edwards at all. He said so himself many times.

My memory may be a little hazy but I don't remember Gephardt being seriously mentioned as a VP pick.

I do think that Kerry was reluctant about Edwards, but that he deferred to the people who called for Edwards to be on the ticket.



http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1626498-2,00.html

Thanks for the thread, AtomicKitten.

Pick Boxer!!!!

Please!

David

I'm so sick of this meme that Obama has to pick her. He worked his ass off and he should be able to pick who he wants, he has earned that.

:applause: :loveya:

Love you BB ~ Barack and Barbara

Music to my CA ears.

:sarcasm:

I thought the delegates at the convention chose the nominee.

There certainly is a tradition in recent elections of the convention going along with the nominee's choice for number 2, but is it technically the way it happens?

Fact is, If Hillary wants the VP slot, it is in all likelihood hers.It would only take a few of Obama's delegates, with her own to make that happen.

Not to dispute Boxer's greatness but with Obama's lack of experiance, I think he needs to pick one of the hugely experianced for his VP; Biden for example or, if he was healthy, Ted Kennedy.

two progressive heads of state to push through an agenda that breaks through the current status quo.

...who could have been both highly experianced AND throughly progressive.

Phew!

I know and trust that Obama will pick a good, strong candidate who will only assist him in his victory this November.

:hi:

:hi:

They will choose a VP well. I personally like Richardson. He has executive experience, could help with the Latino vote (which may make Florida competitive) and he's young enough to run for President in 2016. But there may be even wiser choices. If I knew everything I'd be working for a campaign, not as a hired gun programmer.

Even if she does wear other people's pants!
(Do you ever watch Curb Your Enthusiasm?)

:hi:

and Larry David was the creator - but now he's on HBO and can really let loose. It's great!

As for Netflix, I have Blockbuster Online (same thing) and have found I actually prefer watching tv shows on DVD. I can watch all of them at once and if it's a network show, no commercials. (plus, I don't have cable, so it's definitely a bonus!)