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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:02 PM
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Hillary has no exit strategy - for her campaign!!!
She doesn't know how to end it. She doesn't know when to stop running her campaign bills up. She has no clue whatsoever what to do now, now that she won't be the nominee.

This is not a sign of a leader, someone who can adapt to new information in order to make a decision. This is a sign of someone who is lost in the spotlights and can't find her way off of the stage.

Hillary can't even manage her own campaign's finances, so why did she think she could run the country's?

The more primaries that are held, the farther behind Obama she falls and the closer he gets to the magic number. A number that she agreed on last year as being the one that decided who will be the nominee.

There are no more good arguments for her to stay in the race when she is falling behind.
There are no more reasons for her to hang around just hoping for a miracle that will never come.




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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:04 PM
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1. I think Thom Hartmann is right. She's now running for VP.
The top liberal radio host thinks this would be a strong ticket.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:06 PM
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3. Today, Thom Hartmann is talking out of his ass ... NO! No HillBilly's as VP.
:nuke:
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:06 PM
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4. No sale. Just cause Thom wants it doesn't mean it's going to happen.
Barack gets to choose the person who will best compliment HIM and HIS ideas. And that won't be Hillary.

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:16 PM
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7. Jimmy Carter said he thinks that's the ticket the Republicans would like to see.
What does that tell you?
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:39 PM
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13. My old Governor and President has hinted that a Southern Conservative would be best.
I think he said Sam Nunn specifically.

A Centrist and a Conservative on the Democratic ticket.

Same as it ever was.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:24 PM
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19. Yeah - I saw that.
But I STILL agree with this other statement.
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madwivoter Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 03:23 PM
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24. I have great respect for Thom Hartmann...
But strongly disagree with him on this one.

If she is indeed running for veep at this point, she's not 'interviewing' very well.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:05 PM
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2. She's waiting for the "oil bill" to be enacted. It's about entitlements.
Oh ... and "bringing democracy" to the oppressed people of Appalachia.

:shrug:

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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:14 PM
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5. She's just running now to show she is not a quitter and
To give all the states a chance to vote. She'll throw the towel in sometime after Puerto Rico votes and she realizes she is not gonna get enough SD's to give her a win.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:18 PM
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8. The remaining states and PR will be able to vote no matter what she does.
We get it, she's not a quitter, but anyone else in her position would have certainly conceded to the winner by now.

This isn't about quitting any more, it's about pure delusion.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:24 PM
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18. The race baiting and playing the sexist card all the time is tearing the party apart.
And it isn't coming from Obama's campaign, it is coming from Hillary's.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:15 PM
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6. I think you may be right.
I think her campaign never even considered the possibility that she wouldn't be the nominee. By Super Tuesday.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:21 PM
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9. I'm beginning to think
she is so managed by her corporate masters that she doesn't even have the OPTION to concede....(as others have argued more effectively than I here at DU).

This insanity is starting to suggest some pressures on Hillary beyond the usual--she appears to be running on fumes but in fact we are told she can still "win"

Obviously The Powers That Be (regardless of party) never expected a serious challenge to Hillary...and what's more they are pulling out all the stops to see that it is thwarted even now. But we Bu$h survivors aren't fools. This looks more and more Rethuglican.

The voters are just pawns in this game. "Selfish Hillary voters" who won't quit may be a convenient smokescreen.

There's just not too many other ways to view it--since there are, as you say, no more GOOD reasons
for her to stay in the race.

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:22 PM
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10. Garin, Chief Clinton Strategist: Hillary WILL Continue after June 3..
States she has won the Popular Vote
Stated she has won MORE PLEDGED DELEGATES -- WTF??

States she WILL continue after June 3rd, until "one of them reaches the magic number".

Andrea Mitchell did not contradict him on any of this. How are they now claiming more PLEDGED delegates??

This is not going to end well.

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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:20 PM
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17. She can't win any more primaries after June 3rd, so what's the point?
If she can NOT accept the will of the Democratic party, then she needs to get the hell OUT of the Democratic party!!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:32 PM
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22. The point is the convention.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 03:31 PM
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25. Oh man.
She's never going to go away. :banghead:
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:25 PM
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11. I believe she should have her name placed in nomination at the convention and then the convention...
....will make the selection.

The convention - with all 50 states and their delegates seated. That's called Democratic Party UNITY!
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:25 PM
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12. Oh indeed there are many good reasons for her to stay
in the race.

But I certainly understand why you Obama fans are getting nervous.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:41 PM
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14. According to campaign finance rules,
if she bows out early there's a point where she can't raise funds anymore. If she stays in until the end, she can raise funds until the cows come home. I don't know all of the specifics, but she's not planning on an exit - she's planning on staying in to wipe out $31 million in debt.
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Sundoggy Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:42 PM
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15. This is what I've been thinking
that, at this point, for her to continue onwards shows an appalling lack of judgement. I think we should all count ourselves lucky. Look what happened under pressure: Obama was cool, Hillary and her supporters went ice-cold banana whips (apologies to Douglas Adams).
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:18 PM
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16. Obama has 1964 delegates, 61 more and he's the nominee!!!!
I don't give a fuck what Hillary or Bubba say on tv.
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:39 PM
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20. She wouldn't be pissing money away unless
she has an end game strategy that she thinks will work. Superdelegates, rules committee, or some other backroom deal.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:31 PM
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21. She's setting Obama up for a loss so she can run again in 2012!
Because she sure as hell won't get re-elected as a Senator for the state of New York after all the fucking shit she has pulled this year!!
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 03:20 PM
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23. You don't think she can win reelection in NY?
I don't know, just asking. How did she do in the NY primary?
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 03:34 PM
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26. I hope you're right.
The last thing I want to see is a repeat in four years. I've seen enough of the Clintons.

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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 03:42 PM
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27. It's classic Clinton behavior
Since they entered public life, the Clinton have been survivors -- and not in the good sense of the word. Embroiling themselves in one potential disaster after another -- many of their own making -- they have always escaped at the last minute by hook or by crook. I think Hillary's plan here is to just hang on in the hope that something magically happens to give it to her. She doesn't care what this does to the party or its chances in the GE. She just keeps thinking that if she can drag it out long enough, something will pop up to propel her into the top spot.

This is a behavior often seen in highly dysfunctional people.
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