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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:06 PM
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Obama does not "owe" Hillary anything especially the VP spot
Edited on Wed May-21-08 12:16 PM by ButterflyBlood
He should pick whoever the hell he damn wants and ignore the whining from the Hillary camp. They lost, they need to get over it. Obama makes the rules for his own campaign.
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JKaiser Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:07 PM
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1. They should pick her..
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:15 PM
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13. As Pelosi said today VP is a serious choice for the presidential candidate and somebody
shouldn't be forced on him.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:36 PM
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16. Hillary is like Bush Jr: she will try to shove her way where she doesn't belong. n/t
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:54 PM
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18. absolutely NOT, Obama should NOT
He owes her nothing. She has earned nothing. She is entitled to nothing.

that's just not how it works, sorry.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:07 PM
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2. NO! To the Victor goes the spoils. He decides who he wants.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:09 PM
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victor
He won the nomination, not the GE. He needs todo whatever to unify the Dems to win the election; otherwise his recent victory is meaningless.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:09 PM
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7. victor
He won the nomination, not the GE. He needs todo whatever to unify the Dems to win the election; otherwise his recent victory is meaningless.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 03:11 PM
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20. And chosing Hillary would not unite the Democrats
At this point, she is going to be a divisive presence no matter where she goes. What would Obama do with her in the campaign? Send her to speak to the urban and suburban liberals she's dissed? Send her out to play good ol' boy in the boondocks and continue her "I'm one of you and Obama isn't" routine? Or do the same with her over-60 female supporters?

There's no real role for Hillary in an Obama campaign. Her supporters need to become Obama supporters -- for her to maintain a private army separate from Obama and answerable only to her would be a recipe for disaster. The best possible thing she could do at this point is to quietly take herself out of the picture and allow the wounds she's opened to heal.

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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 03:49 PM
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22. VP isn't just about getting votes, it is also who you want in charge if he goes down!
Edited on Wed May-21-08 03:50 PM by calipendence
Sorry, but I and most others that support Obama now feel there are many far better choices than Hillary out there to choose. And quite frankly if I were Obama, I (he) wouldn't want to increase the risk of me being shot at if I picked her instead of someone else that is more in line with my way of thinking. That is one of the many reasons why the choice is HIS to make and not hers!
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:08 PM
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3. Is there a typo in your subject line? Shouldn't that be "not" instead of "now"?
Maybe I'm reading this incorrectly.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:09 PM
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4. I think your subject is off by a letter.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:09 PM
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5. Hillary owes Obama an apology for her race-baiting tactics. n/t
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:09 PM
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6. I think the third word of your thread title should be "not"
Don't mean to be a typo nazi, but in this case, it completely reverses the meaning of your thread.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:10 PM
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8. Delegates at the convention make the decision.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:31 PM
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14. Delegates at the convention choose both of them. President and VP.
However, the VP is usually chosen by the Presidential nominee and the delegates follow.

But technically, they can choose one or both over the nominees' wishes.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:35 PM
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15. Like Kennedy/Johnson?
LBJ was thrust upon JFK in "backroom deals prior to the convention.
Fact is, If Hillary wants the VP slot, it is hers.She would only need a very few of Obama delegates to get it.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:43 PM
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17. Yep.
And heads would explode at DU.
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:57 PM
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19. that is SOOOO not a fact at all.
you misunderstand the word 'FACT'

FACT: if Obama does not want her to be his running mate, she will not be!
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 03:26 PM
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21. Hold on to that.(if it makes you feel better)
But your delusional understanding of the process is extreme.
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:21 PM
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24. i'm afraid more people would say that of you than me!
"But your delusional understanding of the process is extreme."

you keep thinking it's just everyone else tho.... hahaha
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:10 PM
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9. Misleading headline. Spot on with the subject..
Edited on Wed May-21-08 12:13 PM by Bensthename
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:14 PM
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10. Let's just say she's giving him strategic incentive to pick her.
Like it or not - arm-twisting is one way to do it.

I don't like it either, but I want to win, and I think we'll have the easiest time of it with her as VP.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:15 PM
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11. Hillary and Obamas demographic base is too similar--either would need to pick a southerner
preferably with military experience.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:15 PM
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12. No, he doesn't owe it to her BUT....
approximately 17 million Democrats voted for her. Does he want them fully totally on his team? We'll see.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 03:54 PM
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23. Obama owes Hillary and the Democratic Party an apology.
Edited on Wed May-21-08 03:55 PM by Perry Logan
For a sneaky, nasty, sexist, dirty, potty-mouthed, ad hominem campaign.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:05 PM
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25. LOL
Now that's a good one.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:42 PM
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26. ROFL.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:53 PM
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27. BHO owes the Clinton's an apology for the way he and his
campaign and some in the whoremedia tried to destroy them by playing the race card and then blame the CLintons.

"What the Republicans did to Harold Ford in Tennessee was pure racism.
What the Democrats did to the Clintons was worse than racism."name withheld
bartcop
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