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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:22 PM Original message |
FUCK IT. Revote 'em. If she really wants those primaries to count, let's do 'em right. |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. Why waste precious money on that? |
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BobbyVan (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. She floated the idea of a revote a long time ago. The Obama camp fought against it. |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. and then she did, too. |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. That is patently false. |
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BobbyVan (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. The New York Times begs to differ |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Your little snippet needs expanding for FULL DISCLOSURE. Read this and weep |
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BobbyVan (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Obama's Re-Vote Pledge: Just Words |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. I don't need more Clinton lies. Try reading NEWS instead of propaganda. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. You mean the unbiased news that you get on DU P? |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. No, I mean CNN, NYT, WaPo, LA Times, ABC..you know NEWS ORGANIZATIONS |
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tmoore411 (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. You mean the same sources that thought BUSH was such a GREAT idea ?? |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #44 |
71. did you just try to pass off a Clinton Campaign Press Release as fact? |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Yes, yes she did |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. The Dem parties from each state rejected the revote idea. |
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LSparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Because only the CLINTON SUPPORTERS were going to pay for the election |
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IndependentDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. THANK YOU! so many people miss that fact... |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
45. he could have scrounged up a few million.... |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Or you could. |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
46. YES! |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. wrong. |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. sure did. |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. No, his campaign didn't. If you wanna bother reading up on it go here |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Thanks for the link. The concept that the Obama campaign stopped |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. You're welcome. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
33. Some of Clinton's own supporters fought it. Like Debbie Wasserman in Florida. nt |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
43. Because many who would have voted for him voted in the |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. I would love to bankrupt her! |
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Bill219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. I agree |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
8. Only if the FL and MI legislators who fucked it up paid for it, out of their own pockets. |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. So let the two states who broke the rules play an even more important role in deciding the nominee. |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. the people who are paying for it are the voters who did nothing wrong |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. Yes they did, they elected idiots |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. alright...they were uninformed and ill-served by their elected officials.... |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. But that is the way our country works |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #32 |
69. The punishment of wise men |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #32 |
70. dupe |
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tmoore411 (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
59. What's the difference??? |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #59 |
75. Apparently you didn't get through all the rules |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. Michigan only. |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I'd settle for that, but would prefer both. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
14. Too late, she was fighting for this months ago, where was Obama? |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. she was for it before she was against it |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Exactly, when Michigan came up with a solution, she said no. |
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mohc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
17. Without a change in the rules |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. there's gotta be some way to make it work....if both camps want it to work |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. She was advocating for revotes in both states, Obama wasn't. |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. she was advocating to RUN the revotes in both states |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. Yes, she was. Where was Obama? |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
81. A bought and paid for election? |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
19. I guess we can kiss a decent GE fund goodbye too. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
39. that would also benefit mcclinton.. |
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guardian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
20. I agree |
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Hola (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
22. I agree |
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newmajority (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
23. Caucus in both states. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
49. What could be more American? |
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newmajority (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. If you can guarantee me that votes would be on paper ballots |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Florida now requires paper ballots |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #49 |
83. FireHouse Caucus. |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
34. Bring It On. |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. but she doesn't need wins. she needs 80-20 wins. |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Are you channelling W again? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
36. Sorry, but NO NO NO NO .. she LOST.. she should NOT |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #36 |
76. I absolutely agree |
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goletian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
51. we were just waiting for you to give the word. ill contact the obama camp immediatelhy and its done. |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
52. I think he can win Michigan |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
53. Psssst! Before you roar to loudly |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. she wanted to RUN the revote, before she changed her mind |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. I'll be glad to correct you |
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tmoore411 (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Actually, they blocked the caucus idea because the Obama campaign games them |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. So Clinton was against the back up plan which was already in place. |
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tmoore411 (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
61. Obama doesn't want Primaries, he wants Caucuses |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. What are you talking about? |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #65 |
77. keeps trotting that tired meme out |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. I just don't get it. Is everyone in America brain damaged or stupid? |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
62. She can't win even with those two states, why bother at this point? |
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candice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
63. Obama's lawyers refused to revote. The money was donated to do so. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. They refused a revote privately financed by HRC defenders. Sounds EXACTLY like Chicago-style... |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Moreover, anyone who voted in the republican primary would be disenfranshised from the Dem primary |
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ELY08 (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Awesome SoonerPride |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Welcome to DU. |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. logic and fact have no place here. otherwise those are good points. |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
79. You can't just revote. States have to approve it. And neither wants to |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. since we're breaking the rules for her anyway, why not have only the Democratic Partry sanction it? |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
82. and how long would that take to organise |
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