Obama = Bush ?

I'm sorry if this topic has been done to death, but I want input.

My friend in Puerto Rico is gung-ho for Hillary. I'm not. He doesn't understand why I wouldn't like Hillary, and I don't understand his claim that Barack Obama is like George Bush. Whenever he says this and I ask him to explain, he starts talking about Puerto Rico, and how Hillary has done more for Puerto Ricans because there are lots of them in New York, and so on. He also appeals to experience, saying that Hillary has talked to foreign leaders while Obama hasn't. And he says he's not convinced that Obama is gonna do anything about the war in Iraq. Mind, there's a language barrier here: He doesn't know English all that well, and I don't know Spanish all that well. Even so, we are conquering the barrier nicely.

Does anyone here have experience with people who say Obama is the same as Bush? Does anyone here think this themselves? Please discuss.

Why do you think Ms. Clinton is immune?

Anything to back your claim and drive your point home? I'm interested in discussing this.

I don't see Obama starting wars over lies. I don't see Obama making fun of Troops in harms way searching for Wm's. I don't see Obama sitting in a class room reading a children's book after someone whispers in his ear, "America is under Attack" I don't see Obama ignoring 9 months of warnings, PBD's, of terrorists attacks.

Makes you feel better, I don't see Clinton doing any of those things either.

your claim is ludicrous, and frankly embarrassing.

I would say the hundreds of thousands Bush has murdered would tend to disagree with you!

of an aristocratic family. that's how he made it as Law Reveiw editor. I agree completely that Obama can't string two words together. Hell, everyone knows he couldn't possibly have written two books. there had to be a ghost writer. oops that was hillykins who employed a ghost writer.

Yeah, bush and Obama are just soooo much alike, Baghdad Jersey.

:rofl:

whose ass he is kicking. ouch.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/prhome

That's the best suggestion I can come up with given the language barrier. Also, encourage him to go and ask Bill Richardson his questions.

... I don't think Obama's own website would have any sway on him. I'll certainly try though.

Well, on experience at least. He was full of crap and I wanted to slap him, but he uttered words not dissimilar.

We really need to get Obama to Puerto Rico. It's important. I don't want another Clinton blow out, whether it's over already or not.

David

obama is like bush with regard to his limited experience. also his campaign seems to be a little bit slogan heavy.
and a certain percentage of his more enthusiastic supporters resemble bushs early supporters. but i don't think he'd be like bush as far as any policy goes. of course a ham sandwich would be an improvement over bush.

idolizes obama as more than a working politician. his goals may be worthwhile but he's still a politician. example. you'll hear all about hillary voting for the irw, but you'll hardly ever see anything about obamas senate vote to keep funding the war. it goes straight down the memory hole. in 2000 bush ran against gore and in one of the debates bush claimed credit for getting a patients bill of rights passed while he was governor. that bill passed over his veto and still doesn't have his signature on it. when i would tell bush supporters that, they didn't argue. they just pretended they never heard it, and if they didn't hear it, it never happened.
wasn't there a gaffe with the canadian government over some statements obama made concerning nafta. i believe he had spoke publicly about reworking the nafta agreement, and when the canadian govt found out they contacted him. they were i believe told by one of his aides, not to take it seriously that it was just campaign talk. the die hard obama supporter doesn't hear this, and the typical response is "well, clinton is for nafta" it's not about nafta, it's about being dishonest, or at least misleading.
remember the hullabaloo over rev. wright. there were plenty of posters here who supported obama not denouncing his pastor, it showed integrity. 4 days later when obama denounced him, well that showed integrity as well. the worst of bushs supporters rationalized everything he did or said total unconditional hero worship. there's no way you can have accountability in that environment. i didn't like it when the gop did it, and i don't like it any better now that it's the democrats doing it.

I'm very interested in having a serious discussion about this.

This is just taking an observation about HRC and trying to tag Obama with it. It is just absurd nonsense.

I am not a huge HRC fan, but I would support whom ever was on the ballet in November. WE can not afford another repig on the Hill!

I have a bumper sticker on the back o my truck that says:
BUSH LIED!

Hillary is just like Bush, because Hillary Lies!

pronounce the words correctly.

Bush like Obama did run on a "change Washington" "outsider" "work across party lines" platform

It's a nasty tactic that HRC's surrogates have fully embraced. :(