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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:20 PM
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Carter: Obama needs someone like Sam Nunn as VP
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/21/carter-obama-clinton-ticket-unlikely/

Now before you flame me or Carter for saying this and regardless of where Sam stands on gays, Obama needs a conservative democrat with experience and strong foreign policy/security credentials on his ticket. Ideally such a VP candidate should appeal to the conservative democrats that Obama can not win.

Before any of you jump out and say Clark or Biden, may I further add that Obama's VP should ideally be from the south or a red state that democrats could pick up in Nov. Biden or Clark will not make Obama's ticket much stronger. Heck those two both ran for president and both of them pretty much got no where.

You guys may not like the idea but we can not win the White House without the support of conservative democrats.

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:22 PM
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1. JIM WEBBBBBB
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:38 PM
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19. I'll 2nd that! eom
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:22 PM
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2. I pass on Nunn.
:puke:
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:22 PM
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3. With All Due Respect To President Carter, Sir, No One Needs Sam Nunn
Nor will anyone be saddled with him during this election season....
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:23 PM
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4. Bob Graham
Southerner (Florida), ex-Senator and Governor, Head of the Intelligence Committee who voted AGAINST the Iraq War

If we are going to take a Southern conservative democrat, he would be my favorite.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:25 PM
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11. Now that is a good suggestion!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:59 PM
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28. I'd like to see some polls on that in Florida.
Edited on Wed May-21-08 09:01 PM by Kristi1696
Another benefit of that is McCain reallly wants Florida. So having Graham (and making Florida competitive) might force McCain's hand to take Crist, who I think would weaken the ticket overall due to his positions on social issues.

Edited: Because my dog laid his head on the keyboard and put about 100 spaces at the end of this, lol.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:24 PM
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5. The thing that bothers me - besides the homophobia and conservatism - is that no one remembers him.
Plus, he's not really a magnetic personality. I mean, you can't upstage the candidate... but you have to do better than dishwater.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:24 PM
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6. President Carter- Endorse Obama NOW.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:24 PM
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7. President Carter- Endorse Obama NOW.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:24 PM
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8. I'm sure Obama and his advisor's will do a good job..they have so
far...they have lots more information than we do...they will figure out the best vp for Obama...if they don't already know...
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:24 PM
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9. Nunn was my #1 pick in the Top Five that someone (sorry, can't
remember who!) started a while back - we all picked five candidates for VP in order from most to least preferred. Nunn was my choice for just those reasons.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:25 PM
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10. Sorry Jimmy, I Disagree
Obama is somewhat erudite, so his VP should fire up the lunchpail crowd (and be from the South). Nunn isn't a fire-up-the-lunchpail-crowd kind of guy.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:26 PM
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12. I'm not convinced
first of all, I suspect that this is not going to be a national security election, but an economy election like we haven't seen in 75 years. Working class dems are not prone, under such circumstances to vote rupublican. And Sam Nunn is hardly a well known figure at this point. Finally, I don't count on the South, but this year, we can expect huge AA voter turnouts to help there more than anything else.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:29 PM
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15. Did you see what happened in Kentucky?
The folks tend to vote against their own interests. Ohio had the biggest job losses in the entire union in 04 and Kerry lost that state to Bush.

We need someone with very strong national security/foreign policy experience as VP.

Obama can handle McCain on the economic policies. Trust me McCain knows nothing about economy.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:34 PM
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17. how was voting for hillary against their own interests economically?
And if you can't tell the difference between the economy in 2004- even in Ohio- and 2008, you haven't been paying attention.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:38 PM
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20. The people of Kentucky were not voting for their economical interest
They are terrified by the idea that Obama will be the commander in chief. That is how the rethugs win the office.

When you have a sense of insecurity or that someone is going to blow a nuclear bomb in America you really do not care about the economical policies of candidates.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:53 PM
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25. Sorry, you don't make a case for your claim
In KY, exit polls revealed that the economy was by far and away the biggest issue for voters. They damned well were voting because of the economy. And that's been true of virtually every state but, oddly enough, my state of Vermont, where the Iraq War was the most important- and not in the sense that people support it.

When you can't feed your kids are heat your home, or purchase gas to fuel your car to get to your poorly paying job, you better believe that takes precedence over some threat to national security.
http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/john-mccain/19781/kentucky-oregon-exit-polls-big-economy-issue-and-big-democratic-divide/
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:26 PM
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13. Not to argue but...
Arkansas would be possible with Clark as VP. And Clark has automatic red state appeal due to his long service in the military.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:27 PM
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14. VA=Jim Webb
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:32 PM
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16. Hate the idea
Besides, with all due respect to President Carter, Nunn is a big fat has-been. He brings nothing.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:37 PM
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18. Sounds like one Georgia boy going to bat for another.
However, I bet whoever Obama chooses will be a white, male, red state democrat with a fairly conservative voting record. It just makes electoral sense.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:43 PM
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21. Sam Nunn is the most floated name for VP in American History
I think every Dem since Mondale has considered him for VP.

(By the way, Jack Kemp would be the winner of this competition if not for the fact that he actually was tabbed for VP).
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:47 PM
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22. Webb is a good choice
1. Anti-Iraq war, but strong on nat'l security/defense, which would counter Obama's lack of experience in that area.

2. Southern senator from a red-leaning potential swing state.

3. Strong on labor and economic issues, is pro-union.


He's not pigeonholed easily into any ideological mode. Since Obama purports to be about 'change', this is his chance. Webb didn't just beat Allen based on 'macaca', he was vastly underfunded, brutally 'Roved', and flouted focus groups and polling. He's a proven tough campaigner.


Obama/Webb '08? Could very well be... stay tuned.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:51 PM
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23. Obama will make the right choice for his campaign.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:52 PM
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24. Webb or Murtha, then please
or HRC. I don't care.
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Va Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:54 PM
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26. Wesley Clark
Webb would cost us a seat in the Senate
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:55 PM
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27. I'd Like Him To Chose Someone From Delaware
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:11 PM
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29. Sam Nunn??Absolutely NOT!! Another warmonger!!! GoWebb!
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