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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:24 PM
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The DNC's Getting Ready To Hand the Reins Over To Obama & You're All Pitching Fits Over Hillary
Edited on Wed May-21-08 10:43 PM by cryingshame
There's already one thread on this, but I'm going to start another in the hopes SOME DU'ers stop obsessing over Hillary and building up negative energy and FEEDING IT.

The AP is reporting that negotiations to give the Obama campaign the reins of the DNC are underway:

Barack Obama is quietly planning to take over the Democratic National Committee and assemble a multistate team for the general election, the latest sign that he is putting rival Hillary Rodham Clinton and the nomination fight behind him.

Top Obama organizer Paul Tewes is in discussions to run the party, several Democratic officials said Tuesday.

Obama spokesman Bill Burton said no final decisions have been made on general election plans and that such decisions would be premature with Obama yet to clinch the nomination.


DNC executive director Tom McMahon and DNC political director Dave Boundy traveled to Chicago last week to meet with Tewes and other campaign officials to discuss merging efforts. The party officials have held similar meetings with Clinton campaign officials and last week got an agreement with both campaigns to start raising money that will benefit the eventual nominee.



It’s normally a matter of course during the general election to expand the size of the party apparatus and hand over control to the nominee. “Effectively the DNC becomes a wholly-owned subsidiary of the nominee’s, even before the convention,” Democratic consultant Chris Lehane told me last week.

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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:27 PM
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1. A change at the DNC helm? Could that mean Hoawrd Dean for VP?
Edited on Wed May-21-08 10:28 PM by Liberty Belle
I can't imagine a better dream team than that.

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!


:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:41 PM
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7. I love Howard Dean, but...
An African American from Chicago at the top of the ticket with a VP from Vermont. That's not gonna fly demographically.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:41 PM
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8. OBAMA / DEAN !! !! !! HELL YEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!! !! !!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:56 PM
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15. Dean gave the DNC to Obama with the decision to go beyond rules to deny Hillary MI/FL delegates
50% was in the rules - the 100% punishment was via a meeting called by Dean so as to help Obama

Which is why the DNC got no money this month while Hillary pulled in $20 million - and is why if no Hillary as VP the DNC won't get a dime more of my money.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:40 AM
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18. 50% is the minimum specified in the rules
The DNC has the discretion to do what they did, and they judged the Michigan/Florida transgressions egregious enough to refuse the entire delegation.

Please stop making things up.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:43 AM
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19. false.
they kept within the rules.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:40 AM
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23. LOL
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:38 PM
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2. So what do you make of the words coming out of the Clinton camp
that they will take this fight to the Convention?

They are using MI and FL as the reason, ignoring the fact that both states violated the rules

In Florida at least all the candidates were on the ballot, but with MI only Clinton was on the ballot because the other candidates were told to remove their names and not run. Incidently, this isn't the first the MI has pulled this bullshit. Terry Mccalaugh was DNC chair told Carl Levin not to move the MI primary up or they would be penalized, just like Howard Dean. MI backed off then

I hear what you are saying, but I see the Clinton camp doing something else

All indications tell me that they would fight this all the way to the convention even if the rules committee rules against them, and they would also pursue legal measures

There is good reason why people are concerned. This is not the first time the Clintons have betrayed the party or lied





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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:39 PM
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4. Clinton has no money. Spouting inflammatory bullshit is the only way to recapture the spotlight
and frankly, I think a lot of Obama supporters here on DU are stupid for helping her by obsessing over it.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:44 PM
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10. Big difference between unknown Obama supporters, and offical statements
from the Clinton camp

When bush said in 2000 he would appoint judges like scalia and thomas, I blieved him

When the Hillary campaign says they will take this fight to the Convention, I have no reason NOT to believe them

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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:47 PM
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12. You have one big reason not to believe them.
And it's her ailing campaign's lack of money and dwindling support.

Bush was able to appoint judges like Scalia and Thomas because at the time he had a Republican-controlled Congress and/or the authority to do that as a sitting POTUS.

Hillary has no such things in her favor.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:52 PM
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14. I hope your right, but I wouldn't minimize it until it is official
We will no within 2 weeks exactly where this is leading, I hope you are right

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:23 AM
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17. All candidates say that
Edwards said it. Kucinich said it. They all say it right up until they drop out.

Nobody campaigns on a platform of when they're going to drop out.

That said, it's just not over yet, no matter how much you guys wish it were.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:46 AM
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20. I suspect it is over. I strongly suspect that behind the scenes
Obama has been assured by leaders and enough SDs that he has it sewed up, and that they're simply trying to keep Clinton from going completely off the rails. Could I be wrong? Sure, but the DNC story and comments by Dean and Pelosi and others, would indicate that I'm not.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:40 PM
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5. AND she wants to ignore the caucus states in her "popular vote" total. n/t
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:48 PM
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13. What she thinks on that is wong and also irrelevent because it is the delegate count
that determines the nominee

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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:44 PM
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9. I honestly think this is more of a ruse to keep the viability of her campaign inflated long enough
to retire some of her debt...
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:58 AM
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22. She's trying to bully the R&BC into voting favorably for her
Warning them that they better seat the delegates to favor her, or else. Unfortunately, this strategy might work a little bit, but she'll still fall short of the number needed for the nomination.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:38 PM
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3. And when will Obama have "clinched the nomination"? Never, if Hillary can thwart the process ...
...long enough.

You don't see the catch-22 in this? She's going to go wailing and whining all the way to the convention and beyond if SHE isn't the nominee - and she's not.

But - I hope you're right. I hope the DNC does hand Obama the keys and that somehow this albatross named Hillary is caged somewhere out of the picture - because she's increasingly a damaging caricature and embarrassment to herself and to the Dem party.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:40 PM
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6. she's a carny freakshow. Ignore her, put her supporters here on DU on ignore.
See how much coverage she got today?

Meanwhile look at DU, how many freaking threads on Hillary?

How many on Obama?
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:45 PM
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11. How much coverage did she get today, out of curiosity?
My news aggregate didn't have too much, but I admit to not having my ear turned toward cable news so much anymore... It's too nauseating.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:23 AM
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16. I had to turn off NPR because that's ALL THEY'VE HAD ON since Tuesday night..
Edited on Thu May-22-08 02:23 AM by Triana
...Hillary. A snippet or two of Obama here or there - but mostly Hillary's entire damn screeching rants. Gahhh!

Just like George W. - the ONLY good thing about Hillary is turning her OFF so I don't have to listen to her.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:49 AM
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21. i DON'T trust her ... HRC will turn UGLY in the near future again - it's the Clinton way.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:19 PM
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24. kick
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:23 PM
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25. We would like a link on this.........
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:56 PM
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26. Makes a lot of sense to me. Smart idea by Dean can't battle the DNC if you are the DNC.genius.
Edited on Thu May-22-08 10:59 PM by barack the house
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