Will Hillary be forever branded as the Nader of 08 ?

If Obama loses the GE I'm pretty sure Hillary and her kamikaze campaign are going to be blamed.
I think the resentment will be so great that there's no way she'll get elected president in 2012.

I'm wondering how much this would affect other aspects politically.

Will she have the same clout in the Senate?
Will this have an affect on her holding her Senate seat?

That's exactly what I see coming.

I guess she has nothing to lose except for respect.. though I think if she did that in this cylce she'd cement her place alongside Nader and Lieberman.

Of course it will be done strictly for women's rights and to make sure every vote counts. Not for her own self empowerment and revenge.

She has said multiple times she will work tirelessly for Obama if he is the nominee.

I didn't say she was, I was asking if she would...wake the fuck up

:wtf:

As in replacing him as the narrative spoiler.

so many people feed energy into this stupid fucking idea.

No need to wait for anything.

I've also seen a few articles saying that Hillary doesn't want to go back to the Senate anyway. Harry Reid didn't want to do a party for her when she returns to the senate, like they did for all the other Senators who returned after they dropped out of the race. They don't believe she would be happy to be welcomed back with a party.

my comparison isn't based the ideas of either.

There is obviously a difference in degree of support, but Nader wasn't so far out there on the fringe that he didn't have a major impact on the 2000 race.
Hillary has already had a major impact on the 2008 election.

Based on that the analogy is completely valid.

If Obama is the nominee and he loses I really can't imagine that the prolonged primary isn't going to be seen as somehow a part of the reason for his loss.
Especially when you consider that a significant portion of Hillary supporters have said they will cross over and vote for McCain if (as is most likely) Obama is the nominee.

but I think she's painfully self-destructed her own career.

Nader left the party for his attacks on it. Hillary she's doing her damage within the party. She's far worse.

came shining through. :nuke:

Miss Hilly has done the "spade work." <hint hint nudge nudge> :puke:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oRwZQLdhEw

Adherence to the rule of law is not something normally associated with the clintons. Moreover, racial and ethnic disrespect, intimidation, exploitation and hate have always been a fundamental clinton tactic and the reflexive use the "N"-word and other racial and ethnic slurs, an essential element in the clinton lexicon. When the "first black president" and his wife ran Arkansas, the NAACP sued them for intimidating black voters at the polls.

Conversely, the clintons' refinement of the DNC drag and drop is, arguably, one of the more insidious and repugnant applications of their special brand of race-hate politics.

Hillary has a number of traits in common with Ralph.

- big egos
- inability to make a graceful exit
- inability to apologize
- self-righteous

I say this as someone who actually likes Ralph Nader, and someone who respects Hillary. But the truth is what it is.

Hillary will eventually get behind Obama, but the damage will already have been done. If she cared about her supporters she'd be using her clout to help Obama make inroads with them, rather than hardening their hearts toward him.

I think it's finally time to change my sig.

only because Nader will retroactively be branded the "Hillary of 2000".

She's just devoid of moral integrity.

He meant it in a positive way, but I thought it was ironic.

hilary of 2008. Just no Hypocricy like hilary Hypocricy.