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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:06 PM
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This is the year of the "VP", the selection of the VP will determine the election.
IMO, The VP selection for both parties will account for at least 25% of the total vote in the Nov GE.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:20 PM
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1. And Clinton's already shown how many people will vote for her.
This will be the first real test of whether Obama can unite the party by inviting his strongest Democratic rival to be on the ticket, to show her supporters that he cares about them, too.
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nomorewhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:24 PM
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2. ain't going to happen. hillary is not the vp, and her vp would be a negative, not a positive
we've now got a new concept to introduce to the clinton supporters

1) your candidate will not be the democratic nominee (we've known this for what, 2-3 months?)
2) your candidate will not be selected by obama for the vp slot. (we've been saying this for what, 1-2 months?)

sorry guys, clinton got beat bad early in the campaign. she lost. she won't be on the ticket. it's sad but one of them had to lose. clinton lost.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:39 PM
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9. If she isn't on the ticket, we're much more likely to lose the GE.
But it's obvious that many Obama supporters here don't care about that -- they'd rather lose the GE than have Clinton on the ticket.

She didn't get beaten badly, either, and if the situation were reversed, Obama's supporters would be insisting that he should be on the ticket. Not that they'd need to insist, because she's smart enough to recognize the importance of a coalition, and strong enough not to feel threatened by his popularity and strength. And mature enough to look beyond heated campaign rhetoric.

If he ISN'T wise enough to ask her to be the VP, maybe it's best if she's clear of what could turn out to be a train wreck.

Though it's obvious from this forum that many of his supporters would whine that she caused him to lose, even if he disses her and her supporters by not asking her to be on the ticket.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:41 PM
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10. Sez you. Many disagree.
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nomorewhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:10 PM
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14. flawed logic
hillary wins pa, wv =/= hillary wins GE
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:33 PM
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6. Na. Gon. Happen.
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Hola Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 02:22 PM
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15. Hillary
She needs to make some overtures, like say 'I would be honored to serve if asked' or some such thing.

If Obama does ask her, and she rebuffs him - it will be a huge sign to her core supporters not to back him. So far she's not mentioned anything about wanting the VP slot, so it's risky for BO.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:25 PM
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3. no it won't. it never has. Doubtful it ever will.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:29 PM
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4. It will be huge for Obama because he is viewed as "unknown"
Not so important for McCain as long as he picks someone mainstream. I hope he picks Romney, by the way. I've heard so many moderate republicans and independents say they won't vote for McCain if he picks Romney. They think he's too conservative and don't like him. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:35 PM
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7. McCain's veep will be important because of McCain's age
and his perceived health issues.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:50 PM
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13. Oh yeah.
I forgot about that. He's not exactly a "traditional" candidate either. ;)

Ironically then I think Clinton's VP would have been the least significant our of the 3. She would've had a lot of freedom to pick someone.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:30 PM
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5. Never has. Never will.
Back to the Talking Points Barrel with that one, Hill
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:35 PM
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8. Did you pull that quote out of your ass, or do you have something to back it up?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:48 PM
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11. No where near 25% of the total vote
which is why the V.P. selections will be based upon certain swing states, not an overall national appeal.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:49 PM
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12. It's the economy stupid. $4.50 gas will crush the repuke candidate.
Dems win in landslide
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