NY Gov. Paterson Sees 'Desperation' By Clinton - (clinton supporter)

Paterson Sees 'Desperation' By Clinton, Disagrees On Florida And Michigan


Gov. David Paterson, who is right now being interviewed by WAMC's Alan Chartock and taking calls from listeners on "Vox Pop," just disagreed sharply with his presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton, on her last-ditch efforts to seat the Florida and Michigan delegations.

While he stressed that he continues to support Clinton and will do so until "she makes a different determination," Paterson, a superdelegate, said he doesn't believe the DNC should change the rules after the fact on Florida and Michigan and added that he's not buying her claims about leading the popular vote if the ballots cast in those states were counted.

"I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support and I'll support until whatever time she makes a different determination," Paterson said, adding: "I thought she was the best candidate and I thought she had the best chance of winning."


Paterson, who is a DNC committee member and was present at the meeting when a vote was taken to penalize Florida and Michigan for moving their respective primaries ahead of the traditional starting contests in New Hampshire and Iowa, said he thought that decision was "a little unfair" and he "didn't agree with it at the time."

But he also noted "nobody was screaming" after that decision was made, although some people were unhappy with it, adding:

"There was a process. I thought at the time everybody agreed to it. I didn't hear any objections from the candidates...So I would think the Democratic National Committee would leave it where it is."

On Clinton's claims regarding the popular vote and likening the fight to set the Florida and Michigan delegates to the civil rights movement, Paterson said:

"You have to rule out the undecideds in Michigan. You have to assume she won 100 percent to nothing in Michigan. I don't think anybody in their right mind would do that, nor would they see it as a civil rights issue.">>>>>>


http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2008/05/paterson-sees-desperation-by-c.html

Flame away. It had to be said.

"There are none so blind as those who will not see. The most deluded people are those who choose to ignore what they already know. .


I think this story is big news.

as he picked up his hammer and saw.

I wanted to make an OP, but I already have three for the day. I really appreciate him being honest about this when asked . Also a big deal because he is the governor of NY obviously. I live near Albany, so of course Eliot Spitzer was a huge story. The local news has generally been very pro-Hillary, but the last couple of weeks, even they are seeing the writing on the wall and calling her out on the popular vote thing. Thank god.

but don't listen to the news. New York shouldn't have to go down with hilary.

Who thought she had the best chance of winning until new shit came to light.

It's good he's for hilary and making the logical case that she has no case.

Thank you, Ichingcarpenter, for posting.

and wouldn't have said this if the committee thought otherwise.

amongst themselves before making any such statement on the airwaves or to the press!

AaaaMen!

is bad enough. When she starts invoking the struggle for civil rights in america to provide legitimacy for her own sad attempt at winning, its a whole other level of pathetic.

and it is going to finally sink her. I welcome her behavior because she is showing her true colors. I wonder, where were the Clintons during the stolen Gore elections in Florida? Thank god she will not be the nominee or be anywhere near the ticket. K/R

or not. And I'm not sure what you mean by "sink her." Obama people have already said that he is the nominee, so there is nothing to sink. As for her future....in three years Hillary will be Senate Majority and I suspect that Obama will be an irrelevant junior Senator.

Steve

drops out we can get on with the work of taking the presidency back...mc cain will not have a chance, he has got so much against him..

"I thought she was the best candidate and I thought she had the best chance of winning."


He is speaking in past tense as in he no longer thinks she is the best candidate nor thinks she has the best chance of winning.

It says he was on the committee, the committee talks to each other,
Clinton is desperate.


He is a Clinton super delegate and he is saying this publicly

even though he will remain a Clinton super delegate because he had pledged to do so.

As part of NY's Democratic political establishment he pledged to her early, but when given the chance to free up a SD slot for another Clinton supporter to attend the Convention (for technical reasons Patterson qualified for two different slots) he refused to, which effectively blocked Hillary Clinton from getting another delegate committed to her.

Which is just background info, I am not saying his position is not sincere or without any merrit.

I would think that a good working relationship with him would be important for her Senate seat?

I don't pretend to be an expert on NY politics, however.

But it is always good to know the back story.

And thank you for providing that.

:hi:

I think that the fact he was at the meeting should have a lot of bearing
on the importance of this story.

David was supposedly supposed to get her Senate seat once she was elected President. But now since she is not going to be President, he gets the consolation of being governor! Though he has been on conference calls for her and was trotted out on calls to defend her against some allegations that they were being racially divisive . But still...good job, David!

I hope he runs for something, no matter what happens.

I never knew Patterson was such a big player in NY.

nauseum during Elliot Spitzer-gate that Paterson was supposedly in line to get the Hillary NY senate seat if she was elected, and that's why he might have conflicting thoughts about taking over for governor. But now that she won't be president, we get him as governor! I have heard Robert Kennedy wanting Clinton's seat too. But yeah, his endorsement of her has all to do with the NY establishment.

"You have to rule out the undecideds in Michigan. You have to assume she won 100 percent to nothing in Michigan. I don't think anybody in their right mind would do that, nor would they see it as a civil rights issue."
:thumbsup:

You, um, might want to take notice to what your Governor is saying here.

The danger to her political career is becoming very real.

be at issue in the next election. We like her...he is gov'ner by default.

everyone I know here who voted her into Senate can't stand her now. Though I agree, her seat is probably safe.

all shakes out...

:rofl:

the NY branch of Pots and Pans doesn't track him down.

This might be big..... hopefully the TVs will cover it also.

Paterson rejects Clinton's case for counting Florida, Michigan votes
By Tom Precious - News Albany Bureau
Updated: 05/22/08 3:30 PM


Associated Press
New York Gov. David Paterson says "we are starting to see a little desperation" on Sen. Hillary Clinton's part.


ALBANY — In a case of bad timing for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, the top Democrat in New York is throwing cold water on her argument that primary votes in Florida and Michigan should be counted.

Gov. David Paterson said "we are starting to see a little desperation on the part of a woman who I supported and I'll support until whatever time she makes a determination.''

Paterson said he attended the Democratic National Committee meeting last year in which it was decided that Michigan and Florida contests would not be counted if those states moved up their primary dates to December. He said he opposed the move by the national party.

"I didn't agree with it at the time. However, right now as we come to a reconciliation, candidates have to be careful in their zeal to try to win that in some respects they're not starting to trample on a process,'' Paterson said without naming Clinton. "Everybody agreed to the process at the time.''

Paterson, in a call-in show this afternoon on an Albany public radio station, also questioned Clinton's demands that her performance in Florida and Michigan be counted as victories for her. In Michigan, he noted, the other Democrats, including Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, took their names off the ballot.

Paterson, a superdelegate, said he does not see the DNC changing its position on the Florida and Michigan primaries.

OK

I just cannot wait for this to finally end...

I trust from the news I've read that the
ball is in our court and we are just running
out the clock. The score is 110-54 and there is
only 3 shots left in the game, Montana, North Dakota and Puerto Rico

... mostly because the person screaming now arrogantly assumed the race was going to be over by Feb6th. A cup of cold water was thrown on that delusion the day the first votes were cast.