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Vote2008 Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:09 PM
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Anyone who actually believes Hillary is not in "Win at all costs" mode is delusional!!!
Does anyone honestly think that Hillary cares more about the Party than she does about Hillary? I can't imagine even the biggest Hillary supporter think that she is not desperate at this point.

What in the hell happened to this woman???
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:12 PM
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1. I'm sorry to say it, but I don't think that we got to know the real Hillary until now...
and I don't at all like what I see. The other delusional claim by her is counting all the votes... I call BS to that claim as well, count all the votes when I need them counted is more like it.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:12 PM
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2. What the blank it wrong with you?
She said, she's running until the convention. Have you not listened to her? We want her to do it. We are desperate party members upset a you wanting to negatge the primary before it has been completed. Hold onto your socks.

You sound like the RW media trying to give Bush the election before all the votes were counted or even recounted. Back off.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:14 PM
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3. 134 posts right from Obama headquarters or Roveland?
Doesn't seem like you've been very invested in this contest on DU.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:17 PM
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4. Interesting that someone who has so much to say, hides their profile.. hmmm n/t
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Vote2008 Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:41 PM
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10. My profile is not hidden!
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:47 PM
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18. My post wasn't toward you, but toward the other dude.. n/t
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:13 AM
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22. I or anyone else has a right to keep their profile as it is.
Edited on Sat May-24-08 07:14 AM by mac2
Do you want to attack us because you want to discredit our comments?
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Vote2008 Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:42 PM
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12. LOL....so unless you are a DU member you have not studied politics? Stupid!
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:17 AM
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24. 143 posts...studied politics?
Edited on Sat May-24-08 07:17 AM by mac2
You sound like John Adams who thought the "rabble" couldn't made a good decision on how to run the country being illiterate and all.

Don't use that game with us...we're just as informed and maybe more honest than those who would remove our rights and democracy for an oligarchy.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:34 PM
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6. "We" comprises a few hundred die-hards.
The real-life Hillary supporters I know are enthusiastic to support Obama, now that he's the nominee-apparent. It's a nice thing to hear, and I'm very confident that we'll achieve party unity, despite the efforts of the die-hard Hillary supporters determined to undermine our efforts.

I imagine the OP will blow off your "back off" command. I can assure you I'm not backing off.

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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:25 AM
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30. "Real life Hillary supports"?
Support Obama? What kind of bull is that?
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texshelters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:43 PM
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13. The delustion is:
she wants to count all the Michigan votes and Obama wasn't on the ballot. She wants to count the Florida votes after she and Obama promised not to campaign there.

Perhaps that is not delusional. It is dishonest.

Tex Shelters
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:30 PM
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5. I don't know who possibly could have missed her motto: "In it to win it" from the very begining.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:36 PM
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7. FIGHT!






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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:38 PM
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8. cool flag.
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texshelters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:45 PM
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15. Fight until it hurts the party
and use big flags to prove your point.

The flags remind me of the uber-patriotic "support our troops" while I drive my big SUV crowd.

Thanks for the propoganda. That clears up how you think.

Tex Shelters
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:18 AM
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26. 486 posts
Your point is propaganda. This is a primary and the race is not over.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:45 PM
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16. Yes, fight dirty and lose FILTHY. Makes one a despicable megalomaniac. No FUCKING WAY! eom
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:40 PM
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9. Politicians doing anything they can to win...
Isn't that what we as Democrats have been lacking?
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texshelters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:41 PM
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11. Clinton Wins Michigan; Santa Claus is Coming!
Iraq has WMDs, the Easter Bunny left those eggs, there’s gold at the end of the rainbow, there’s no sexism or racism in America, the Great Pumpkin is coming, free trade is free…

Adults grow up and stop believing in fairy tales, follow agreed upon rules, face responsibility for their loses and gains without blaming others, and move on.

Is the Clinton rhetoric on Michigan toughness, denial, delusion, fact, fantasy, insanity, Machiavellian, sabotage of the fall campaign, black mail, all of the above?

By the way, I had a chess match at my house and invited Vugar Gashimov, Gary Kasparov, the ghost of Bobby Fischer, and other grand masters of chess. No one showed up. I WON, I WON! I won the contest, uncontested!
I am world chess champion!

Tex Shelters


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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:23 PM
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20. Congrats on your victory!!
:rofl:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:44 PM
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14. HRC and Bill have been SPOILED by seemingly *absolute* political power for too long.
They actually think that "The Clintonian DLC, et. al., OWNS the Democratic Party. :crazy:
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:46 PM
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17. Lol.. Not you, my post was to the other person... n/t
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:48 PM
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19. Hillary is our only hope against the upcoming OBAMA TRAIN WRECK.
Edited on Thu May-22-08 04:49 PM by Perry Logan
Early in the primaries, Barack Obama promised that he would win more people over the longer he campaigned. He said that every state becomes an "Obama state" once he goes there. But an interesting thing happened as winter turned to spring, and the people kept voting in record numbers. Hillary Clinton stole the momentum. Her popularity soared; her appeal broadened; and she steadfastly became the darling of the masses, even as Barack was crowned darling of the mass media.

It started back in New Hampshire, when Hillary "found her voice," but what really happened is that the American people have found Hillary. And there's nothing like raw data to illustrate the point:

*The Electoral Vote "Poll Watcher" shows Hillary gaining steam against McCain, now leading 310 to 228, with Hillary winning key states like Florida, North Carolina, and West Virginia. (Obama trails McCain by over 30 EV's.)

*Over the last three months, Hillary has won more contests, gained more votes, and earned more delegates. Since March 4th, she has gained nearly 500,000 more popular votes than Barack Obama as voters in crucial battleground states have made their voices known.

*More Americans have voted for Hillary than any other presidential candidate this cycle. In fact, more people have voted for Hillary than any other primary candidate in history - nearly 18 million so far.

*Tuesday, Hillary won 150,000 more votes than Obama in Kentucky and Oregon, even though delegate counts will be split fairly evenly.

*Hillary has now won nearly 64,000 more votes than Obama in total, when all caucuses and primaries are included.

Hillary Clinton just keeps winning. She is the candidate who closes the deal with voters. Despite being out-spent by margins of up to 4-to-1; despite anxious efforts by Obama, his surrogates, and an obedient press corps to convince people that the race is over. They keep voting for her anyway. Thankfully there's a stubborn gene in the American people, a natural resistance to authority, and maybe that's why the people love Hillary. They see her get up with the roosters every day, work herself to exhaustion in pursuit of a dream, and never give up or give in to the nay-sayers. Hillary, in spite of all the odds, has become a genuine Made in the USA hero, a leader for the people and no longer just "Bill's wife," the other Clinton.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/22/power-to-the-people/#more-2641
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:21 AM
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27. Obama can't win the GE. If he does the country will be divided
over race and his Faith Based agenda. We will fight among ourselves instead of having "change" to solve our problems.

The small conservative states are his victory and the manipulation of the larger ones such as MI and FL say the party leaders want us to lose the liberal part of our "Democratic" Party.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:58 PM
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21. I'm one of her biggest supporters and I do not see this desparation
you say there is. I see a woman that wants to win this nomination becasuse she and about 17 million others know that bho is not the best choice for the party and especially the most qualified and experienced to be president.... I agree that she will stay in this race till the last dog dies and I too will stay, and whatever decision she makes I will respect.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:23 AM
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29. I agree.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:16 AM
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23. she's completely lacking in empathy, typical of sociopaths
That's why she could not see how this storyline of hers would sell, but would backfire.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:17 AM
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25. Scared, little Obamites?
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:22 AM
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28. nothing happened, she just revealed her REAL
persona in this campaign. And of us who defended her and Bill in the 1990s got played big time.

In the end, they both are selfish, narcissistic power hounds.

And we see it now.

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:25 AM
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31. I sure hope more and more people wake up the the fact that the Clintons are
narcissistic sociopaths.

See DAYBREAK!?! HRC would do ANYTHING to get the Presidency. ANYTHING!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sqOGo0tglU&feature=related
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