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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:19 PM
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This should be Obama's #1 Talking Point going into the general election against McSame
Edited on Thu May-22-08 05:14 PM by VolcanoJen
Today, sweet crude hit $135 a barrel.

Yesterday, I watched Sen. Jim Webb on "Morning Joe," as oil hit $130 a barrel, point out to Mika Brezinski that the month we invaded Iraq, oil was $27 a barrel. My jaw dropped.

Gasoline locally here in southwestern Ohio hit $3.99 today, and while that is awful and a hardship, can anyone really imagine what would happen if that price doubled? The closer we inch toward $200 a barrel, the closer we get to $8.00 per gallon of gas.

I think it's high time Obama really addressed the energy issue, and where oil and gas prices were when Bush took office, where they were when we invaded Iraq, and where they are now. I'm not sure the majority of Americans have really made the obvious connection yet, and you'll never see McSame discuss the way our destabilization of the Middle East has affected the price of sweet crude. He'll talk about increasing demand from China and India, but you won't hear him talking about the war in Iraq having an effect, and you sure won't hear him discussing the way oil company profits have risen so disproportionately.

Get it out there. $135 per barrel today. $27 per barrel in March of 2003. Ask your neighbors to think.

I'd like to add this, which I wrote in response to a post by The Magistrate. It lifted my spirits today:

While filling up my gas tank this afternoon, I and every other customer at the tanks were wretching and heaving about the price. It was the first time we hit the $3.99 9/10 mark here in Cincinnati. An impromptu discussion ensued.

A gentleman, senior citizen driving a late-model minivan, said to me, "I need to get me one of those."

I nodded and said, "Yes, it really does get good mileage, even though it now costs me $43.00 to fill up." (I drive a 2000 Acura Integra.)

"No," he said. "One of those." And he pointed to my bumper, and my "Obama '08" sticker.

Events will conspire and Americans will unite. I feel it in my bones. To live in the wingnut bastion of Cincinnati, and to have an older gentleman willing to enthusiastically declare his support for an African-American Democratic candidate is nothing short of earth-shaking in my experience.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:49 PM
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1. ~~~ gentle kick ~~~
Busy day around here. ;-)
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:51 PM
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2. Not even a kick. More like a nudge.
It is the anti-kick.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:52 PM
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3. Thanks, prod.
Edited on Thu May-22-08 04:52 PM by VolcanoJen
Maybe if I would've put HILLARY SUCKS ASS ***PLEASE READ*** MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION COME ON, as the subject line, people would have read it. ;-)
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:53 PM
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4. :-)
Edited on Thu May-22-08 05:01 PM by prodn2000
:rofl:


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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:55 PM
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5. I think it
will be an important issue. I posted something about it earlier today. There was not a lot of interest in my post, but the issue is clearly important.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:57 PM
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9. Gas prices will be *the* issue, IMHO.
Of course, there's little a president can do about the price of sweet crude. But a Democratic President could certainly do more than Bush did in his embarrassing visit to Saudi Arabia.

Standing around the gas pumps in Ohio on this beautiful spring day was an eye-opener. Nothing gets people talking like $4.00 per gallon, and it just opens people up to talk about everything else that is wrong, wrong, wrong these days.

Sorry I missed your thread, H2O... link please?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:04 PM
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16. I think that
oil will be an issue in more ways than one. I will go look for my thread, and it should be towards the top of GD-P soon, as I shall respond to the few posts.

It is a small "your opinion please" on gas prices. My plan was to have a "part #2" tomorrow, to ask what people think about another oil-related question I think is worthy of consideration. I think that we do well to ask ourselves a lot about oil/gas.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:56 PM
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6. As far as your analysis in the OP... Fantastic.
In the freaking oil-capital-of-the-USA, Dallas, TX, 87 Octane Unleaded is about $3.82 9/10 per gallon.

People are hurting, and it is going to get a little worse before it gets better.

This is going to be THE campaign issue this year.

Especially with who has been occupying the White House for the last 7 1/2 years. Two freaking oil people.



Anywho, K&R
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:57 PM
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7. Kick and rec. n/t
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:57 PM
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8. A failed Texas oilman becomes president, invades Iraq and oil goes from $27 to $135
Whodda thunk it?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:00 PM
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13. A comedian made an interesting analogy.
Not sure who it was, but he said something to the effect of, "We elected two oil men to run the country, and now gas is almost $4.00 a gallon and nobody seems to make the connection. Think about it. If Colonel Sanders was the President and chicken quadrupled in price, you wouldn't be wondering how that happened."

$4.00 a gallon. Mission Accomplished. Thanks, GOP!!! :eyes:
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:18 PM
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24. That was Bill Maher
:rofl:
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:59 PM
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10. yep he's got to tie gas prices and the economy in general around McCain's neck
and don't forget about the war.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:59 PM
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11. One of my favorite points to bring up to Repubs
is that on the day Bush took office, gas was $1.41 a gallon.

Webb's point is a lot more shocking, though. Thanks for the new talking point!

- as
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:00 PM
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15. I saw a bumper sticker the other day that said "January 2001 - $1.41 a Gallon."
That was all. And I loved it!!!! Where can I get one?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:59 PM
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12. k&r
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:00 PM
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14. This should be on freeway blog signs across the USA!


OIL - $27 a barrel when we invaded Iraq
Now it's $140 a barrel
Think about that!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:12 PM
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18. Hmmmm. IDEA!!!
:think:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:11 PM
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17. I totally agree with you.
Edited on Thu May-22-08 05:14 PM by myrna minx
While I am fortunate enough to not have or need a car, the cost of food and other goods have been so highly effected by fuel prices, that no one can escape these outrageous prices. Remember the outrage of$2/gal gas in 2000? That almost seems quaint now, but I think that's the trick. Exaggerate the price so that when it does go down, to say $3, it will seem like relief. Bastards.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:18 PM
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26. I'm the same way..do not need or want a car
now but since I work in a co-op I know how much all the other things have gone up exponentially due to the ever escalating cost of fuel for those delivery trucks.

Oh yeah, manipulation is the name of their game..oily bastids.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:15 PM
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19. $27 a barrel. Interesting that gas is not 5 times as expensive
the other parts of its price - refining costs and taxes have not gone up as much.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:25 PM
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20. When gas is $8.00 a gallon we will all be in deep trouble
I think you are correct about this issue.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:34 PM
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21. $8.00 a gallon would change our reality.
It would change the American way of life. It would be intense, and it could very well lead to a general economic depression.

At the same time, it would help Americans get used to life without automobiles. It will be good, and it will be bad. But, it needs to be addressed. Now.

In so many ways, this is the most important election of my lifetime.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:56 PM
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22. that will not work. just like obama and his 2002 speech. Where
was his speech in 2003? In 2004? In 2005? In 2006? In 2007? And why did he not fillibuster the funding? Where was his big speech and fillibuster in 2008?

obama and hrc would have to be blamed too for the high cost of oil if you wish to play the blame game.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:10 PM
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23. Oh gawd. You can't even get behind a Democratic nominee making oil an issue...
... when running against John "Bomb Bomb" McCain and eight years of rule by former oil company executives and their minions?

Your support of Hillary has just twisted you to the point that you're not even capable of rational thought anymore. I'd expect any Democratic candidate to bring up oil/gas/economy as the #1 issue in 2008. This isn't about you or your candidate.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:08 PM
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25. Webb is by far my #1 VP pick
I have been posting about him the past several days, and am currently tearing through "A Time To Fight". Highly recommended.

He shares my favoritism of labor, and is a formidable intellect. He is the rising star of the Democratic party.

(Dodgers won the series against the Reds, in case you needed reminding) :P :hi:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:40 PM
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27. I'm anxious to read that book.
Webb is awesome, and I'm really wanting him to be the pick, too. :-)

Oooooh I'm so scared of the big scary Dodgers! :P
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